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- May 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM#6827JoshuaParticipant
This topic was brought up in a different post but I think it deserves a discussion of it’s own. What are the signs and wonders of these two? Please don’t post about how Jesus did things and people still didn’t believe. He still did those things and we have the account of it. What have Ahn and Zahng done?
- June 1, 2012 at 5:19 PM #9845
SimonParticipanttelepathy is not omniscience.
And I wasn't talking about loneliness but praying for God to send me truth I do not see church as a cure for lonliness.
June 1, 2012 at 5:19 PM #44883
SimonParticipanttelepathy is not omniscience.
And I wasn't talking about loneliness but praying for God to send me truth I do not see church as a cure for lonliness.
June 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM #44884
gennyParticipantshimon wrote:
telepathy is not omniscience.
And I wasn't talking about loneliness but praying for God to send me truth I do not see church as a cure for lonliness.
About lonliness, I meant that if satan can know that someone is lonely and searching for truth and meaning in life, then he can send people into their life to lead them away from God.
(And getting involved with people, socializing, is a cure for lonliness, no matter if it's at a church or knitting club.)
June 2, 2012 at 6:06 AM #9880
gennyParticipantshimon wrote:
telepathy is not omniscience.
And I wasn't talking about loneliness but praying for God to send me truth I do not see church as a cure for lonliness.
About lonliness, I meant that if satan can know that someone is lonely and searching for truth and meaning in life, then he can send people into their life to lead them away from God.
(And getting involved with people, socializing, is a cure for lonliness, no matter if it's at a church or knitting club.)
June 2, 2012 at 11:22 PM #9946
WMS brotherParticipantMiracles are the signs of False Prophets.
June 2, 2012 at 11:22 PM #44885
WMS brotherParticipantMiracles are the signs of False Prophets.
June 3, 2012 at 12:56 AM #9965
gennyParticipantWMS brother wrote:
Miracles are the signs of False Prophets.
So Jesus was a false prophet?
June 3, 2012 at 12:56 AM #44886
gennyParticipantWMS brother wrote:
Miracles are the signs of False Prophets.
So Jesus was a false prophet?
June 3, 2012 at 3:46 AM #44887
WMS brotherParticipantJune 3, 2012 at 3:46 AM #9983
WMS brotherParticipantJune 4, 2012 at 2:05 AM #44888
Love'n HoneyParticipantConcerning my personal fragrance about being able to keep Passover as a miracle:
The greatest miracle is to be able to go to Heaven. One cannot enter Heaven with a new car. Your new car will be destroyed. But as taught, through the Passover, we are given the right of passage to enter Heaven. This is the miracle I was speaking of. Being able to keep Passover means I am capable of entering Heaven. The miracle being that Mother satisfies every question/ thought a Brother or Sister has when they go to meet Her. Do you know how many people visit Her during 1 trip? Do you know how organized they would have to be to pull off every coincedence without any visiting member noticing? After so many coincedences, one must wonder.. But it all falls back on what people view as miracles. You don't see the opportunity to keep PO as a miracle. I don't see receiving a new car as a miracle.
The miracles Jesus warned about were the physical miracles. As I understand it, God performed many miracles. The manna from the sky; healing the 10 who had leprosy. But just like God, other people can perform miracles too. I think Jesus performed the physical miracles to the prove the point that those miracles will not make someone believe in the true Saviour.
June 4, 2012 at 2:05 AM #10048
Love'n HoneyParticipantConcerning my personal fragrance about being able to keep Passover as a miracle:
The greatest miracle is to be able to go to Heaven. One cannot enter Heaven with a new car. Your new car will be destroyed. But as taught, through the Passover, we are given the right of passage to enter Heaven. This is the miracle I was speaking of. Being able to keep Passover means I am capable of entering Heaven. The miracle being that Mother satisfies every question/ thought a Brother or Sister has when they go to meet Her. Do you know how many people visit Her during 1 trip? Do you know how organized they would have to be to pull off every coincedence without any visiting member noticing? After so many coincedences, one must wonder.. But it all falls back on what people view as miracles. You don't see the opportunity to keep PO as a miracle. I don't see receiving a new car as a miracle.
The miracles Jesus warned about were the physical miracles. As I understand it, God performed many miracles. The manna from the sky; healing the 10 who had leprosy. But just like God, other people can perform miracles too. I think Jesus performed the physical miracles to the prove the point that those miracles will not make someone believe in the true Saviour.
June 4, 2012 at 2:14 AM #44889
SimonParticipantrenita.payno wrote:
I think Jesus performed the physical miracles to the prove the point that those miracles will not make someone believe in the true Saviour.
I would agree with your assesment; in Egypt, the miracles, signs, and wonders did not convince anyone until the true miracle, Passover.
June 4, 2012 at 2:14 AM #10052
SimonParticipantrenita.payno wrote:
I think Jesus performed the physical miracles to the prove the point that those miracles will not make someone believe in the true Saviour.
I would agree with your assesment; in Egypt, the miracles, signs, and wonders did not convince anyone until the true miracle, Passover.
June 4, 2012 at 3:24 AM #44890
Love'n HoneyParticipantshimon wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
I think Jesus performed the physical miracles to the prove the point that those miracles will not make someone believe in the true Saviour.
I would agree with your assesment; in Egypt, the miracles, signs, and wonders did not convince anyone until the true miracle, Passover.
Amen! (I literally said that outloud. #smileyface)
June 4, 2012 at 3:24 AM #10089
Love'n HoneyParticipantshimon wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
I think Jesus performed the physical miracles to the prove the point that those miracles will not make someone believe in the true Saviour.
I would agree with your assesment; in Egypt, the miracles, signs, and wonders did not convince anyone until the true miracle, Passover.
Amen! (I literally said that outloud. #smileyface)
June 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM #10095
SimonParticipantJubilee wrote:
Programmed
You are free to believe that but that doesn't make it so.
June 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM #44891
SimonParticipantJubilee wrote:
Programmed
You are free to believe that but that doesn't make it so.
June 4, 2012 at 4:07 AM #44892
Love'n HoneyParticipantJubilee:
You don't believe that the OT PO was a miracle performed by God that set the Israelites free from slavery? I mean, it's clearly written in the Scripture. To believe this fact doesn't make someone programmed. My grandmother, who is not a member of the COG, must also be programmed because she would definitely agree. But then I wonder, who is she programmed by?
June 4, 2012 at 4:07 AM #10101
Love'n HoneyParticipantJubilee:
You don't believe that the OT PO was a miracle performed by God that set the Israelites free from slavery? I mean, it's clearly written in the Scripture. To believe this fact doesn't make someone programmed. My grandmother, who is not a member of the COG, must also be programmed because she would definitely agree. But then I wonder, who is she programmed by?
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