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- May 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM#6827JoshuaParticipant
This topic was brought up in a different post but I think it deserves a discussion of it’s own. What are the signs and wonders of these two? Please don’t post about how Jesus did things and people still didn’t believe. He still did those things and we have the account of it. What have Ahn and Zahng done?
- May 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM #9640
gennyParticipantAnd he is a masterful schemer. Think of how long he has had to practice.
May 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM #44873
gennyParticipantAnd he is a masterful schemer. Think of how long he has had to practice.
May 29, 2012 at 6:50 PM #9641
JoshuaParticipantIt’s unfortunate that you could not have ministered to the folks that came to your door. Perhaps this was Gods plan for you but Satan got a foothold in you instead. I know it’s a what if scenario but if you had ministered to these folks you could have saved their lives instead of now being in a position where you’re defending a group with big holes in their doctrine. You’re confused and you don’t want to be alone again. You’ve been taught that if you leave you will lose your salvation. You do have choices here. Either get onboard with the one true God or remain in slavery with the eventual reward of a afterlife in hell.
May 29, 2012 at 6:50 PM #44874
JoshuaParticipantIt’s unfortunate that you could not have ministered to the folks that came to your door. Perhaps this was Gods plan for you but Satan got a foothold in you instead. I know it’s a what if scenario but if you had ministered to these folks you could have saved their lives instead of now being in a position where you’re defending a group with big holes in their doctrine. You’re confused and you don’t want to be alone again. You’ve been taught that if you leave you will lose your salvation. You do have choices here. Either get onboard with the one true God or remain in slavery with the eventual reward of a afterlife in hell.
May 29, 2012 at 7:21 PM #44875
SimonParticipantJoshua wrote:
It's unfortunate that you could not have ministered to the folks that came to your door. Perhaps this was Gods plan for you but Satan got a foothold in you instead. I know it's a what if scenario but if you had ministered to these folks you could have saved their lives instead of now being in a position where you're defending a group with big holes in their doctrine. You're confused and you don't want to be alone again. You've been taught that if you leave you will lose your salvation. You do have choices here. Either get onboard with the one true God or remain in slavery with the eventual reward of a afterlife in hell.
That is nonsense if I ask God to show me truth why on earth would he send people for me to preach to them?
May 29, 2012 at 7:21 PM #9650
SimonParticipantJoshua wrote:
It's unfortunate that you could not have ministered to the folks that came to your door. Perhaps this was Gods plan for you but Satan got a foothold in you instead. I know it's a what if scenario but if you had ministered to these folks you could have saved their lives instead of now being in a position where you're defending a group with big holes in their doctrine. You're confused and you don't want to be alone again. You've been taught that if you leave you will lose your salvation. You do have choices here. Either get onboard with the one true God or remain in slavery with the eventual reward of a afterlife in hell.
That is nonsense if I ask God to show me truth why on earth would he send people for me to preach to them?
May 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM #9651
SimonParticipantgenny wrote:
And he is a masterful schemer. Think of how long he has had to practice.
I KNOW you do not see him as such but that still looks like deification to me.
May 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM #44876
SimonParticipantgenny wrote:
And he is a masterful schemer. Think of how long he has had to practice.
I KNOW you do not see him as such but that still looks like deification to me.
May 29, 2012 at 10:30 PM #9690
SimonParticipantapocryphal
May 29, 2012 at 10:30 PM #44877
SimonParticipantapocryphal
May 29, 2012 at 10:44 PM #44878
JoshuaParticipantAn answer to your question: If you ask for courage does God give you courage or the opportunity to be courageous? If you ask to be smarter does God make you smarter or give you the opportunity to study to become smarter? You asked him to reveal his truth and he gave you the opportunity to share his truth with others. This could have been something great and it would have met two of your needs. 1)To get more of Gods truth. 2)To have people to study and share with. You would have no longer been alone. All of you could have been free. You could have been instrumental in saving people for Gods kingdom. You chose deception and now you’re wasting your time and effort defending it and studying it which is only enslaving you more.
May 29, 2012 at 10:44 PM #9696
JoshuaParticipantAn answer to your question: If you ask for courage does God give you courage or the opportunity to be courageous? If you ask to be smarter does God make you smarter or give you the opportunity to study to become smarter? You asked him to reveal his truth and he gave you the opportunity to share his truth with others. This could have been something great and it would have met two of your needs. 1)To get more of Gods truth. 2)To have people to study and share with. You would have no longer been alone. All of you could have been free. You could have been instrumental in saving people for Gods kingdom. You chose deception and now you’re wasting your time and effort defending it and studying it which is only enslaving you more.
May 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM #44879
SimonParticipantIf I do not know God's truth I cannot share God's truth
May 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM #9720
SimonParticipantIf I do not know God's truth I cannot share God's truth
May 30, 2012 at 5:54 PM #9743
prtyeyesParticipantShimon… How are you apart of a church that claims to be the ” true church” but yet you don’t know Gods truth?
May 30, 2012 at 5:54 PM #44880
prtyeyesParticipantShimon… How are you apart of a church that claims to be the ” true church” but yet you don’t know Gods truth?
May 30, 2012 at 8:48 PM #9748
SimonParticipantthat comment is anochronistic
May 30, 2012 at 8:48 PM #44881
SimonParticipantthat comment is anochronistic
May 31, 2012 at 8:21 PM #44882
gennyParticipantshimon wrote:
genny wrote:
And he is a masterful schemer. Think of how long he has had to practice.
I KNOW you do not see him as such but that still looks like deification to me.
And didn't you tell me earlier, for another post, that the only explanation you could thin of is that God is not the only one who knows our thoughts? I know you didn't mean it, but it sounds like you meant someone besides God (satan possibly?) is omniscient–deification?
No, definitely he is not omnipotent or omniscient, but he has had a long time to study human nature. He can tell that you are lonely without hearing you say that you are lonely, for example.
Which brings me to another question about satan, but I'll start another thread for that…
May 31, 2012 at 8:21 PM #9821
gennyParticipantshimon wrote:
genny wrote:
And he is a masterful schemer. Think of how long he has had to practice.
I KNOW you do not see him as such but that still looks like deification to me.
And didn't you tell me earlier, for another post, that the only explanation you could thin of is that God is not the only one who knows our thoughts? I know you didn't mean it, but it sounds like you meant someone besides God (satan possibly?) is omniscient–deification?
No, definitely he is not omnipotent or omniscient, but he has had a long time to study human nature. He can tell that you are lonely without hearing you say that you are lonely, for example.
Which brings me to another question about satan, but I'll start another thread for that…
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