Glad you are open to researching, tomcat. If you haven’t already found it, I have more information on my website:

encountering-ahnsahanghong.blogspot.com

And thanks for sharing, momsix and lovesjesus and kayem.

Kayem, what finally led you to leave after 10 years? Was it something particular?

Why are you leaving blackdog? I was hoping to have some good conversations with you. You can always PM me if you are willing to have a conversation but don’t want it in public.

Nice to meet you Blackdog. Glad you are here. Can you share a little of your story so I can get to know you better?

Still here

Nice work, Charcoa1! That pattern does seem to match what’s going on.

Unfortunately for the wmscog, if this is how they make their calculation, then they are going against the Bible, as it would have been even when the ancient writers mentioned it. The Bible says to count the feasts according to the months, not according to the equinoxes. Lunar…[Read more]

Good point, charcoa1.

I also find it interesting that they celebrate Ahn’s birthday yearly according to the Korean lunar calendar (same as Chinese calendar) rather than the sacred calendar. I would call this following traditions of man (Korean culture) rather than God (sacred calendar), and an example of not keeping to their own teachings.

Yes, Ahnsahnghong taught that the 144,000 was a literal number.

Yes, he did, which is why there is a problem for the wmscog. What about all the rest?

Here’s where an inconsistency in the wmscog is most plain.

They claim that taking the Passover will protect members from disaster. They publicize testimonies from people who say that the Passover saved them from death by accident, earthquake, fire, attack, and more. I was personally told that wmscog members do not die because they are protected…[Read more]

There are Bible verses to use, but you certainly cannot “throw them at members,” as you say, Marky. You must be prepared to use them in conjunction with logic and history, and different people respond to different things. So it’s good to figure out what a particular member needs to hear to help them.

How are you, @bentovo? I hope you will get back to our conversations soon. I’m looking forward to your responses.

Hi @bentovo.

1. There is NEVER a time for God to lie. If it wasn’t the right time for “Heavenly Mother” to be revealed, don’t you think “God” could have said something about it that did not involve lying? What would make it ok for God to ever lie when Titus 1:2 says God does not lie?

2 and 3. It’s honorable to say so if you don’t know. Why don’t…[Read more]

@bentovo

I don’t always use @ to get your attention because I expect that you just check here to see if you’ve gotten a response, but I will if it helps you. It’s kind of hard to have a conversation with long gaps in between. I hope you are well and that it’s just regular busy-ness keeping you away.

You asked for a list of churches that keep the…[Read more]

@bentovo

Just checking in with you. Are you ok? Do you need more time with my questions? If these are too hard for you, you can try the ones I asked zoom in this thread: https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/world-mission-society-church-of-god-email-response-with-genny-and-kevin-maxwel/

You could also try this one:

Part 1 — Joseph…[Read more]

What is wrong with my questions? They are biblical.

1. The Bible teaches that God does not lie and that we should not lie. The wmscog teaches that God does lie and that it is ok for us to lie. Why?

2. The 7th month feasts are described in Lev. 23:23-43. The method for calculating months is shown in various verses, such as Is. 66:23. Why does the…[Read more]

I look forward to hearing (reading) what you have to say, bentovo.

About your links…

#1 “mothersmessenger.wordpress…” — That link has about 10 articles in succession as I scroll down. I don’t intend to write a novel tonight. What exactly do you want me to respond to there?

#2 “pressreader…” and #3 “sgwmscog…” — These are both about…[Read more]

@easyaccesshornyman

Hi Zoom. Haven’t heard from you in a while. How are you? Have you thought of the questions I asked? I’m looking forward to answers, either from you or from another wmscog member who may be reading.

@bentovo

Your link did not answer the question about the 144,000. Would you like to try explaining what you were trying to get…[Read more]

Sure, bentovo.

Why don’t you take a crack at these. Just a few…

1. The wmscog teaches that God lies. Why? (Think about John 8:44 before answering.)

2. Why does the wmscog keep the 7th month feasts in the 8th month sometimes, going against their own teachings? They even say that it is the 7th month when it is the 8th month (like if I told you…[Read more]

Can you show me how to respond to your reply with quotes? When I try it display all those funny letters.

I had the same problem, couldn’t see the html tags until posting, annoying. What I finally decided to do was type out the quotes myself. If there is another way, I’d love to know.

Wmscog church is called Zion. It celebrates God’s feasts and…

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Way to go, Azula! Keep counting!