"The True WMSCOG" on Missionary Ron Ramos Explains Why He Left the WMSCOG After 12 Years

  • #26297

    Love'n Honey
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    fromtheotherside wrote:

    No rituals by us the members or our church, the list of rituals that you listed are done by non believers in korea, but not by us.

     I never said the members participated in rituals. PLEASE quote that post. I said Chuseok was a pagan festival because of the rituals. That's what I said. 144,000 argued that Chuseok WASN'T pagan. It argued that Chuseok had NO rituals. And I proved it wrong.

    #61529

    Love'n Honey
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    fromtheotherside wrote:

    No rituals by us the members or our church, the list of rituals that you listed are done by non believers in korea, but not by us.

     I never said the members participated in rituals. PLEASE quote that post. I said Chuseok was a pagan festival because of the rituals. That's what I said. 144,000 argued that Chuseok WASN'T pagan. It argued that Chuseok had NO rituals. And I proved it wrong.

    #26304

    fromtheotherside
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    o okay!  yes actually Chuseok is pagan.  You are right.  But we do not keep chusoek is my point.  My point is we go home and just be with our family, because that's the only time we can spend with our family together in one roof. Aunts uncles, cousins Gparents.  

    #61530

    fromtheotherside
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    o okay!  yes actually Chuseok is pagan.  You are right.  But we do not keep chusoek is my point.  My point is we go home and just be with our family, because that's the only time we can spend with our family together in one roof. Aunts uncles, cousins Gparents.  

    #26307

    fromtheotherside
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    But we are warned not to join in any of the rituals.  Like bowing to the ancestors.  We are warned sternly about this and not to eat the food sacrificed to them.  But we do spend the time with our family and preach to them.  Mother may bring up Chuseok in her speech but it is way different from Christmas because it is not adopted in to our doctrine nor is it a religious holiday for us.  But Christmas is more of a christian religous thing that's why it's different.  

    #61531

    fromtheotherside
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    But we are warned not to join in any of the rituals.  Like bowing to the ancestors.  We are warned sternly about this and not to eat the food sacrificed to them.  But we do spend the time with our family and preach to them.  Mother may bring up Chuseok in her speech but it is way different from Christmas because it is not adopted in to our doctrine nor is it a religious holiday for us.  But Christmas is more of a christian religous thing that's why it's different.  

    #26309

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    fromtheotherside wrote:

    But we are warned not to join in any of the rituals.  Like bowing to the ancestors.  We are warned sternly about this and not to eat the food sacrificed to them.  But we do spend the time with our family and preach to them.  Mother may bring up Chuseok in her speech but it is way different from Christmas because it is not adopted in to our doctrine nor is it a religious holiday for us.  But Christmas is more of a christian religous thing that's why it's different.  

     Just to check my understanding.. Buddah-ism also isn't religious?

    #61532

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    fromtheotherside wrote:

    But we are warned not to join in any of the rituals.  Like bowing to the ancestors.  We are warned sternly about this and not to eat the food sacrificed to them.  But we do spend the time with our family and preach to them.  Mother may bring up Chuseok in her speech but it is way different from Christmas because it is not adopted in to our doctrine nor is it a religious holiday for us.  But Christmas is more of a christian religous thing that's why it's different.  

     Just to check my understanding.. Buddah-ism also isn't religious?

    #61533

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I'm enjoying this with you better than with 144,000. I feel like you're trying to help me understand rather than tell me how stupid I am for not understanding.

    #26310

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I'm enjoying this with you better than with 144,000. I feel like you're trying to help me understand rather than tell me how stupid I am for not understanding.

    #61534

    fromtheotherside
    Participant

    chuseok has buddihst and Confusionism in it,  But again Chusoek is not apart of the CHurch of God's religious festivals or celebrations.  Also there are more of cultural ascepts in Chuseok also. It is simply a time when the church says to go and spend time with the family.  

    #26311

    fromtheotherside
    Participant

    chuseok has buddihst and Confusionism in it,  But again Chusoek is not apart of the CHurch of God's religious festivals or celebrations.  Also there are more of cultural ascepts in Chuseok also. It is simply a time when the church says to go and spend time with the family.  

    #26313

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    fromtheotherside wrote:

    chuseok has buddihst and Confusionism in it,  But again Chusoek is not apart of the CHurch of God's religious festivals or celebrations.  Also there are more of cultural ascepts in Chuseok also. It is simply a time when the church says to go and spend time with the family.  

     So.. buddah-ism and Confusionism aren't religions? Yes or nine?

    #61535

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    fromtheotherside wrote:

    chuseok has buddihst and Confusionism in it,  But again Chusoek is not apart of the CHurch of God's religious festivals or celebrations.  Also there are more of cultural ascepts in Chuseok also. It is simply a time when the church says to go and spend time with the family.  

     So.. buddah-ism and Confusionism aren't religions? Yes or nine?

    #26314

    fromtheotherside
    Participant

    what I was saying was, it is not a religious festival for "us".  Like I said it is not part of our celebrations or festivals

    #61536

    fromtheotherside
    Participant

    what I was saying was, it is not a religious festival for "us".  Like I said it is not part of our celebrations or festivals

    #26315

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    fromtheotherside wrote:

    what I was saying was, it is not a religious festival for "us".  Like I said it is not part of our celebrations or festivals

     I read and understood what you said, But you have failed to answer my question.

    #61537

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    fromtheotherside wrote:

    what I was saying was, it is not a religious festival for "us".  Like I said it is not part of our celebrations or festivals

     I read and understood what you said, But you have failed to answer my question.

    #26317

    fromtheotherside
    Participant

    of course they are can you hurry and state your point.

    #61538

    fromtheotherside
    Participant

    of course they are can you hurry and state your point.

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