"The True WMSCOG" on Missionary Ron Ramos Explains Why He Left the WMSCOG After 12 Years

  • #26000

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    There is a difference between a rhetorical question, a direct question and affirmation. Know the difference before you strike. 

    #61439

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    There is a difference between a rhetorical question, a direct question and affirmation. Know the difference before you strike. 

    #26003

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    So the path to salvation is clear, but the issue of abortion is nebulus?

    That seems a bit strange.  *shrugs*

    *sits and looks around aimlessly, wondering if 1004, et al will understand the obvious*

    #61440

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    So the path to salvation is clear, but the issue of abortion is nebulus?

    That seems a bit strange.  *shrugs*

    *sits and looks around aimlessly, wondering if 1004, et al will understand the obvious*

    #26002

    1004
    Participant

    Disturbed wrote:

    God should have a clear answer in the matter of abortion. The 6th commandment of God says You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13). Does God categorize abortion as murder? If Zhang is god then she should have a definitive answer since she allegedly gave the commandments. We all want to follow the commands of God right?

    Really that's quite strange because abortion was a normal practice during that time period.  So the fact that abortions were not mentioned directly does answer your question for you.  Murder and Abortion are two different things.  It does not state do not have an abortion in the bible, stop twisting. 

    #61441

    1004
    Participant

    Disturbed wrote:

    God should have a clear answer in the matter of abortion. The 6th commandment of God says You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13). Does God categorize abortion as murder? If Zhang is god then she should have a definitive answer since she allegedly gave the commandments. We all want to follow the commands of God right?

    Really that's quite strange because abortion was a normal practice during that time period.  So the fact that abortions were not mentioned directly does answer your question for you.  Murder and Abortion are two different things.  It does not state do not have an abortion in the bible, stop twisting. 

    #26004

    Simon
    Participant

    Frankly Hassan is meaningless to me as a kabbalist he’s in a cult himself

    but the fact the op distorts Hassans video STILL demonstrates he’s a liar. anyway

    #61442

    Simon
    Participant

    Frankly Hassan is meaningless to me as a kabbalist he’s in a cult himself

    but the fact the op distorts Hassans video STILL demonstrates he’s a liar. anyway

    #61443

    1004
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    Frankly Hassan is meaningless to me as a kabbalist he's in a cult himself

    but the fact the op distorts Hassans video STILL demonstrates he's a liar. anyway

    What is op?

    #26009

    1004
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    Frankly Hassan is meaningless to me as a kabbalist he's in a cult himself

    but the fact the op distorts Hassans video STILL demonstrates he's a liar. anyway

    What is op?

    #26010

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    I agree Simon.  The video is an ad hominem attack on Hassan, the authority figure.  Ron and Diane's clips edited in a way to support the framing of their argument, yet still remaining technically wrong on almost every or every issue the OP believes is salient!  (the minor point:  Diane"no one called me". Sure, she said that.  I believe she meant her friends (ostracization?) with obvious attention that the context of her claim of no one would exclude those that she would talk about with (anger?)).

    It is a review of Ron/Diane that goes, essentially, no where.  Especially in light of what Ron and Diane's is intended to go and topic that they are intending to talk about, but today's world dictates that litigation potential is a real risk with saying certain things in certain ways.  But, people can't see it…until they see it.

    #61444

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    I agree Simon.  The video is an ad hominem attack on Hassan, the authority figure.  Ron and Diane's clips edited in a way to support the framing of their argument, yet still remaining technically wrong on almost every or every issue the OP believes is salient!  (the minor point:  Diane"no one called me". Sure, she said that.  I believe she meant her friends (ostracization?) with obvious attention that the context of her claim of no one would exclude those that she would talk about with (anger?)).

    It is a review of Ron/Diane that goes, essentially, no where.  Especially in light of what Ron and Diane's is intended to go and topic that they are intending to talk about, but today's world dictates that litigation potential is a real risk with saying certain things in certain ways.  But, people can't see it…until they see it.

    #26011

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    Abortion and murder are two different things? I'll debate this at a later time. For now, my joy is that you are here spilling your true colors. 

    #61445

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    Abortion and murder are two different things? I'll debate this at a later time. For now, my joy is that you are here spilling your true colors. 

    #26013

    1004
    Participant

    Sarah stick to the topic instead of arguing if you guys are dummies or not. 

    #61446

    1004
    Participant

    Sarah stick to the topic instead of arguing if you guys are dummies or not. 

    #61447

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    1004 wrote:

    Sarah stick to the topic instead of arguing if you guys are dummies or not. 

    I'm sticking, my friend. You don't worry about that. They know how I operate. 

    #26014

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    1004 wrote:

    Sarah stick to the topic instead of arguing if you guys are dummies or not. 

    I'm sticking, my friend. You don't worry about that. They know how I operate. 

    #26015

    1004
    Participant

    My true colors?  You think we should be kind to you folk?  Do you think you deserve it?  Yes we don't have love for satan, you think we ever hid that? So why don't you try to twist your way out with the abortion thing.

    #61448

    1004
    Participant

    My true colors?  You think we should be kind to you folk?  Do you think you deserve it?  Yes we don't have love for satan, you think we ever hid that? So why don't you try to twist your way out with the abortion thing.

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