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I was at the other site, and I read a comment where someone asked Genny if anyone from the church that has celebrated the passover, has died and if so what did the church tell the members, because if the person died having the passover then what excuse could it give it's member, that the person had no faith?
I also read at the same site that a deacones died, and it was all kept quite, could this be true and is there any proof of it. I personally believe in the passover because it is the word of GOD, even if i don't agree with the wms on somethings.
Also if we can not die having the passover, what about the people that walked with Ahnsanghong, back in the days, who also kept the passover. Are they alive today, if so they must be like almost 100 yrs old. I'm just saying!
Ahnsahnghong isn’t supposed to resurrect
oh really…n how do you think ahn is going to come back ?
Besides the fact he isn’t and never promised to do so?
The church of God says, its spiritual return marked by wwiii not a physical one
shimon wrote:
Besides the fact he isn't and never promised to do so?
The church of God says, its spiritual return marked by wwiii not a physical one
If God is omnipresent, then how can he have a spiritual return? I don't think the real God ever leaves us in spirit. But that's one of the famous wms arguments…when something doesn't make sense or mean what they want it to mean "physically" then they say that it has a "spiritual" meaning. A "spiritual" meaning that only then can interpret of course.
king34 wrote:
hey emily I think you have to times that 30k by at least 4 or 5 times. Because when I was there a brother told me that those donations have to be like the tithes that your doing. But concerning the last passover I did hear the same thing from a sister.She said that father was coming in 2012 leading her to believe that the world was going to end this year. But i told her that all the profecys have not yet been fulfill so that was a load of garbage. I asked a brother when I was attentinng there last year that since when they have been saying that father is *coming soon[ and he had been there for over 10 years lol so I guess this a mechanism to keep them blind and working extra hard to get those 10 talents.
Yeah you're probably right king34 lol. My 30k was a very conservative figure. 10 years?…sucks to be him lol.
New Years Party at my house. When the clock strikes twelve we will all toast a new year 2013. Will all of the WMSCOG members do the same? I hope so. Out with the old and in with the new. I hope this relates to the state of mind as well. Jesus is Lord!
I dunno they say wwiii is him coming.
I.always had assumed it meant a presence like Sinai or something
Joshua wrote:
New Years Party at my house. When the clock strikes twelve we will all toast a new year 2013. Will all of the WMSCOG members do the same? I hope so. Out with the old and in with the new. I hope this relates to the state of mind as well. Jesus is Lord!
Excellent!!!!! I will be facing East, towards Korea, tosting Heavenly Mommy! OOOPS! With a delicious Martini!!!!!
Simon wrote:
she told the last overseas visiting group before I left father was coming this year and we were going to Heaven this year
Here it is Simon, you said it, clear as water
And the very next thing I said was what
My point was that they were saying that mother said father was coming this year, and that members were talking about it, but now they want to make it seem like, they never told the members such a thing especially mother, but you know that's not true because she told the overseas father is comimg this year. LIES! and I'm so tired of it, this is'nt a game here! too many stories floating around and they(higher position) are the ones that start it to install fear and obidence on the members and then they want to make the members look dumb, by saying they never impiled it or change it to a maybe. Now that's mind games right there.
LUV, are you still going to their church? If you still are, do they know that you are doubting their teachings? I am trying to get into the zion here in my city but my brother just gave my number to his deacon and said I will just be contacted. Thing is, I've been waiting for like a month now and no signs of cult people, not even a ring. I want to infiltrate a wmscog church here so that i can find inconsistencies and point it out to my brother AND he couldn't say I'm at a different "COG" and being taught lies (my brother says that there are a lot of FAKE COG's around so I have to be careful not to be TRICKED <look who's talking> ) because they were the ones that contacted me in the first place.
LUV wrote:
My point was that they were saying that mother said father was coming this year, and that members were talking about it, but now they want to make it seem like, they never told the members such a thing especially mother, but you know that's not true because she told the overseas father is comimg this year. LIES! and I'm so tired of it, this is'nt a game here! too many stories floating around and they(higher position) are the ones that start it to install fear and obidence on the members and then they want to make the members look dumb, by saying they never impiled it or change it to a maybe. Now that's mind games right there.
She strongly implied, as my very next quote caveated.
Elievalkyrie wrote:
LUV, are you still going to their church? If you still are, do they know that you are doubting their teachings? I am trying to get into the zion here in my city but my brother just gave my number to his deacon and said I will just be contacted. Thing is, I've been waiting for like a month now and no signs of cult people, not even a ring. I want to infiltrate a wmscog church here so that i can find inconsistencies and point it out to my brother AND he couldn't say I'm at a different "COG" and being taught lies (my brother says that there are a lot of FAKE COG's around so I have to be careful not to be TRICKED <look who's talking> ) because they were the ones that contacted me in the first place.
Never was warned about fake COGs existing yet outside of Korea but I remember being told other churches would start using "Father's" name but they COULDN'T use "Mother" interesting interesting
What do you mean by that COULDN'T, Simon? The wmscog zion that my bro attends to looks original. The teaching of father and mother existence, passover, sabbath, they even have calendars with the their mother in it AND even have Korean deacon and deaconess along with their korean son.
@Elievalkyrie Well, careful cause they monitor this forum and if they can guess who you are, then they already told your brother and maybe thats why they wont contact you.Elievalkyrie wrote:
What do you mean by that COULDN'T, Simon? The wmscog zion that my bro attends to looks original. The teaching of father and mother existence, passover, sabbath, they even have calendars with the their mother in it AND even have Korean deacon and deaconess along with their korean son.
you ever seen a fake zion? (I mean technicaly they all are but that is beside the point lol)
Well, since this is not my real name I could be any others sister right? Are they really that good at monitoring users in this forum?
I think that is highly unlikely because i use my real name i still talk to people from zion.. Btw, my good friend text me last night complaining about the lies she has observed in the wmscog. Dealing with the 3 names, baptism, and the study the savior of each age. I think she’s really got it now. I think she won’t go back. =)
Good for her Renita! Thank be to God who willed her eyes to be opened! ^___^
Simon wrote:
LUV wrote:
My point was that they were saying that mother said father was coming this year, and that members were talking about it, but now they want to make it seem like, they never told the members such a thing especially mother, but you know that's not true because she told the overseas father is comimg this year. LIES! and I'm so tired of it, this is'nt a game here! too many stories floating around and they(higher position) are the ones that start it to install fear and obidence on the members and then they want to make the members look dumb, by saying they never impiled it or change it to a maybe. Now that's mind games right there.
She strongly implied, as my very next quote caveated.
Elievalkyrie wrote:
LUV, are you still going to their church? If you still are, do they know that you are doubting their teachings? I am trying to get into the zion here in my city but my brother just gave my number to his deacon and said I will just be contacted. Thing is, I've been waiting for like a month now and no signs of cult people, not even a ring. I want to infiltrate a wmscog church here so that i can find inconsistencies and point it out to my brother AND he couldn't say I'm at a different "COG" and being taught lies (my brother says that there are a lot of FAKE COG's around so I have to be careful not to be TRICKED <look who's talking> ) because they were the ones that contacted me in the first place.
Never was warned about fake COGs existing yet outside of Korea but I remember being told other churches would start using "Father's" name but they COULDN'T use "Mother" interesting interesting
@Elievalkyrie, check for a pm
@Simon, PEACE, שלום my brother lol, just wanted to comment on what you wrote and maybe, perhaps, they said that other churches might start using fathers name, because at that time no one was suppose to know about the NCPCOG
OR THE http://WWW.COGJW.ORG, the other little branch that split from them, because we all know they use fathers pictures in their website and put up his sermons,( check it out) so this was said before the cat came out of the hat! TADA!!! or shall I say "BUSTED"
AND they would use fathers name because he is dead, and not mother's cuz she's alive and she can take them to court for IDENTITY THEFT!!!!
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