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As wmscog says Ahnshahnhong preached for 37 years from 1948 when he was baptized in SDA(Seventh day adventist) till his death in 1985 +3 years of Jesus Christ’s preaching = 40 years reign of King David (the reason for his qualification of 2nd coming/ the root of david). I want to ask wmscog –
Q1- why then he left SDA and opened a new church?
Q1a-Was SDA doctrine wrong? If yes :Then why he got baptized in a wrong doctrine? Didn’t he know it already being 2nd christ? (Possible Answer)-May be he had no other way because no “true” church existed.
Q1b-So why he took 16 years to open a new church? (Possible Answer)-Maybe because he had to do hard work (Stone carrying as shown in wmscog videos) for a living during the day and had little time in the night to write his books (why din’t Jesus write any book?).
Q1c-So why did God put so much burden on his shoulders? (Not fair. 1st coming christ had only 1 assignment. Poor 2nd coming.)
Q2- Was SDA right? Then why open a new doctrine?
Q3-As Ahnshahnhong started a new church in 1964 and stared preaching new ways of Gospel, then he only scored 1964 to 1985 =21 years. So he comes short 16 years to be eligible for Christship. Oooops!! (Christship is a new word I discovered due to the need on the “new age”). (Possible Solution)-May be they can add sweet 16 years of ‘mother’ who must not be a mother at that age i guess and must be beautiful to qualify to be the bride of the Lamb/Ahnshahnhong/….(somebody please write here the name of Mother’s fist husband)!!
Oh and technically there should be no living witnesses if he didn't bear fruit for 8 years
Funny he says that! I was also taught that Ahn was a buddhist when I studied about the order of melchizedek. A quick google search gave me this site too:
http://www.ahnsahnghong.info/ahnsahnghong/christ-ahnsahnghong-true-melchizedek/
I guess we are not crazy simon!
Funny he says that! I was also taught that Ahn was a buddhist when I studied about the order of melchizedek. A quick google search gave me this site too:
http://www.ahnsahnghong.info/ahnsahnghong/christ-ahnsahnghong-true-melchizedek/
I guess we are not crazy simon!
Simon wrote:
especially if she wanted him training other pastors as much as he emphasiesed we should emphasise his prior buddhism in Melchizedeck and even King David as such proof. Surely she would not want teachings emphasising on false information if she is God
LOL, if this Simon wrote:
The Unknown wrote:
Show me a senior pastor or pastor of WMSCOG that is a living witness, who was there when Christ Ahnsahnghong was alive, who taught that he was a buddist. There are NONE. I think you don't know or realize who I am or what I KNOW. Show some proof that his parents were buddist.
And frankly I don't care if he witnessed it or not Zhang Gil Jah being on the phone with him as often as she was being omniscient as she claims would be able to correct him by the time he was pastor over me if he was in error
LOL if this is solid ground proof, then why didnt Jesus do away w/Judas Iscariot from the moment he chose to follow him? Surely he didn't want a betrayer following him…. right??
Simon wrote:
especially if she wanted him training other pastors as much as he emphasiesed we should emphasise his prior buddhism in Melchizedeck and even King David as such proof. Surely she would not want teachings emphasising on false information if she is God
LOL, if this Simon wrote:
The Unknown wrote:
Show me a senior pastor or pastor of WMSCOG that is a living witness, who was there when Christ Ahnsahnghong was alive, who taught that he was a buddist. There are NONE. I think you don't know or realize who I am or what I KNOW. Show some proof that his parents were buddist.
And frankly I don't care if he witnessed it or not Zhang Gil Jah being on the phone with him as often as she was being omniscient as she claims would be able to correct him by the time he was pastor over me if he was in error
LOL if this is solid ground proof, then why didnt Jesus do away w/Judas Iscariot from the moment he chose to follow him? Surely he didn't want a betrayer following him…. right??
http://www.ahnsahnghong.info/ahnsahnghong/christ-ahnsahnghong-true-melchizedek/
this link is great because When WMSCOG teaches Melchizedek, the point isn't that he was buddist or not, the point is that he was born to a family of unbelievers. So you are stressing the point that WMSCOG emphasizes more and more with this link…. I thought you guys were against the WMSCOG. Maybe secretly you want to become those that follow the truth…
Show some solid ground proof that Christ Ahnsahnghong was buddist, you are all "quoting" word of mouth. You have no proof. This arguement is dead. The bible doesnt say that Melchizedek wasn't buddist, it teaches that he should be born to unbelievers. Whether his parents were buddist or not, the point is they were unbelievers in true God. Thats the point. Not whether he was buddist or not.
http://www.ahnsahnghong.info/ahnsahnghong/christ-ahnsahnghong-true-melchizedek/
this link is great because When WMSCOG teaches Melchizedek, the point isn't that he was buddist or not, the point is that he was born to a family of unbelievers. So you are stressing the point that WMSCOG emphasizes more and more with this link…. I thought you guys were against the WMSCOG. Maybe secretly you want to become those that follow the truth…
Show some solid ground proof that Christ Ahnsahnghong was buddist, you are all "quoting" word of mouth. You have no proof. This arguement is dead. The bible doesnt say that Melchizedek wasn't buddist, it teaches that he should be born to unbelievers. Whether his parents were buddist or not, the point is they were unbelievers in true God. Thats the point. Not whether he was buddist or not.
According to the bible Judas had to fulfill that. Which prophecy false pastors have to fulfill? So then you can't really trust the wmscog with your money, maybe judas is taking it and mother wont do anything about it. be careful!
According to the bible Judas had to fulfill that. Which prophecy false pastors have to fulfill? So then you can't really trust the wmscog with your money, maybe judas is taking it and mother wont do anything about it. be careful!
Jack wrote:
According to the bible Judas had to fulfill that. Which prophecy false pastors have to fulfill? So then you can't really trust the wmscog with your money, maybe judas is taking it and mother wont do anything about it. be careful!
So, Just as Judas had to fulfill that at his 1st coming, is it not written that Christ would suffer many things and be rejected at his 2nd coming? Is it not written that there will be the unfaithful servants? Is it not written that there will be the foolish virgins? Not only false pastors, but false brothers as well.
Jack wrote:
According to the bible Judas had to fulfill that. Which prophecy false pastors have to fulfill? So then you can't really trust the wmscog with your money, maybe judas is taking it and mother wont do anything about it. be careful!
So, Just as Judas had to fulfill that at his 1st coming, is it not written that Christ would suffer many things and be rejected at his 2nd coming? Is it not written that there will be the unfaithful servants? Is it not written that there will be the foolish virgins? Not only false pastors, but false brothers as well.
Awesome, so you do agree there are some pastors that are bad, like judas even. Then how can you tell which one is good or bad? Maybe general pastor is judas? Then when the pastors talk about ahn sacrifice, they might be lying? How do you know your pastor is not judas?
Awesome, so you do agree there are some pastors that are bad, like judas even. Then how can you tell which one is good or bad? Maybe general pastor is judas? Then when the pastors talk about ahn sacrifice, they might be lying? How do you know your pastor is not judas?
warrior wrote:
Hi Unknown! Thanks for answering (still havent answered my pm though!) . Well, the Passover is the feast lasting 7 days yes (actually its the feast of unleavened bread, the passover is the first day of the feast of unleavened bread). But anyway, if you see
John 18:28: 28 Then the Jewish leaders took Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness they did not enter the palace, because they wanted to be able to eat the Passover.29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”
They wanted to eat the Passover. Then its clearly talking about the feast of the passover, the 14th day of the first month. Read John 18 and 19 and you will have the full understanding.
To further prove my point Read Deut 16:1-8. It gives a very detailed explanation that cant be denied. And like i said earler. That 7day period was called passover. During that 7 day period did they eat ONLY lamb on the first day? NO they also ate Unleavened bread for 7 days. So the words "they wanted to be able to eat the Passover" is not talking about the Lamb that had to be eaten on the 1st month 14th day at twilight, it's talking about eating the unleavened bread. And like I said and proved through scripture, John ate the Passover bread and wine on the 14th day of the 1st month. As it is written in Luke 22:7-8, 14-15 Will you deny that too?
warrior wrote:
Hi Unknown! Thanks for answering (still havent answered my pm though!) . Well, the Passover is the feast lasting 7 days yes (actually its the feast of unleavened bread, the passover is the first day of the feast of unleavened bread). But anyway, if you see
John 18:28: 28 Then the Jewish leaders took Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness they did not enter the palace, because they wanted to be able to eat the Passover.29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”
They wanted to eat the Passover. Then its clearly talking about the feast of the passover, the 14th day of the first month. Read John 18 and 19 and you will have the full understanding.
To further prove my point Read Deut 16:1-8. It gives a very detailed explanation that cant be denied. And like i said earler. That 7day period was called passover. During that 7 day period did they eat ONLY lamb on the first day? NO they also ate Unleavened bread for 7 days. So the words "they wanted to be able to eat the Passover" is not talking about the Lamb that had to be eaten on the 1st month 14th day at twilight, it's talking about eating the unleavened bread. And like I said and proved through scripture, John ate the Passover bread and wine on the 14th day of the 1st month. As it is written in Luke 22:7-8, 14-15 Will you deny that too?
Jack wrote:
Awesome, so you do agree there are some pastors that are bad, like judas even. Then how can you tell which one is good or bad? Maybe general pastor is judas? Then when the pastors talk about ahn sacrifice, they might be lying? How do you know your pastor is not judas?
Quote everything, not only pastors but also brothers and sisters as well. I don't believe in Pastors or brothers or sisters, I believe in God and the Bible, so I believe in the system God established. God has not given me any reason to believe he is Judas. What made you believe that your pastor was?
Jack wrote:
Awesome, so you do agree there are some pastors that are bad, like judas even. Then how can you tell which one is good or bad? Maybe general pastor is judas? Then when the pastors talk about ahn sacrifice, they might be lying? How do you know your pastor is not judas?
Quote everything, not only pastors but also brothers and sisters as well. I don't believe in Pastors or brothers or sisters, I believe in God and the Bible, so I believe in the system God established. God has not given me any reason to believe he is Judas. What made you believe that your pastor was?
Well, as you said, the disciples didnt know that judas was bad either. So many all those things that you believe about ahn and zahng's sacrifice is not true, maybe it was made up. I mean, you werent there, so everything you believe is just because somebody told you. So maybe you just believe what some korean people made up. Its a possibility!
Well, as you said, the disciples didnt know that judas was bad either. So many all those things that you believe about ahn and zahng's sacrifice is not true, maybe it was made up. I mean, you werent there, so everything you believe is just because somebody told you. So maybe you just believe what some korean people made up. Its a possibility!
I never said that the discipiles didnt know Judas was bad. you're going to have to quote that statement.
but in response to what you said. Of coarse I wasnt there however, Like i said I dont believe in Pastors or Brothers or Sisters I believe the bible. It is very clear that the one who brings the Passover is Christ himself (Revelation 2:17 Rev7:1-3 John 6:27 John 6:53 etc…) Who besides Christ Ahnsahnghong restored the Passover correctly according to the Bible. Herbet Armstrong didnt do it. His passover isnt correct according to the bible. We wont get into that. The point is, the bible teaches that whoever brings Passover is Christ. And Christ Ahnsahnghong did it. So He did what the Bible claims only Christ can do. So according to the bible he is christ. It is also written Luke 17-20-25….he(christ) must suffer many thing and be rejected by this generation. so in speaking of his 2nd coming he testified that he had to suffer. So Like i said i believe the bible. Why don't you belive the bible? Thats my question to you?
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