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    oliverlog
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    As wmscog says Ahnshahnhong preached for 37 years from 1948 when he was baptized in SDA(Seventh day adventist) till his death in 1985 +3 years of Jesus Christ’s preaching = 40 years reign of King David (the reason for his qualification of 2nd coming/ the root of david). I want to ask wmscog –

    Q1- why then he left SDA and opened a new church?

    Q1a-Was SDA doctrine wrong? If yes :Then why he got baptized in a wrong doctrine? Didn’t he know it already being 2nd christ? (Possible Answer)-May be he had no other way because no “true” church existed.

    Q1b-So why he took 16 years to open a new church? (Possible Answer)-Maybe because he had to do hard work (Stone carrying as shown in wmscog videos) for a living during the day and had little time in the night to write his books (why din’t Jesus write any book?).

    Q1c-So why did God put so much burden on his shoulders? (Not fair. 1st coming christ had only 1 assignment. Poor 2nd coming.)

    Q2- Was SDA right? Then why open a new doctrine?

    Q3-As Ahnshahnhong started a new church in 1964 and stared preaching new ways of Gospel, then he only scored 1964 to 1985 =21 years. So he comes short 16 years to be eligible for Christship. Oooops!! (Christship is a new word I discovered due to the need on the “new age”). (Possible Solution)-May be they can add sweet 16 years of ‘mother’ who must not be a mother at that age i guess and must be beautiful to qualify to be the bride of the Lamb/Ahnshahnhong/….(somebody please write here the name of Mother’s fist husband)!!

    #41812

    ttr
    Member

    Hi Oliver,

    All great questions. You’re right, that if he was in the SDA’s from 1948-1964, then this doesn’t count as part of his preaching. However, if I’m not mistaken, Ahnsahnghong was raised Buddhist, so he was actually in two “false” religions before supposedly preaching his “true” one.

    As for “mother’s” first husband, here is an article in Korean that purports to be written by him from what I can make out of the translation.

    http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/khw46467/1484.html?p=3&pm=l&tc=54&tt=1283771208

    Here’s the link to translate through google:

    Google translation from Korean to English

    If anyone reads Korean, I’d love to know more accurately what this article says.

    #41813

    Anonymous

    I sent this link to my friend in Korea. I hope to get a translation tomorrow. Good job finding this link. I hope to get more information direct from Korea as I think there is good information there we need to get out to the public. In Korea this cult is not considered a religion according to my friends there. It is, however, popular.

    #41814

    ttr
    Member

    thanks Don.

    do you know if your friend in Korea can find out anything about Zhang Gil-Jah’s family? She has to have some sort of family. I heard she has a sister?

    #41815

    genny
    Participant

    Hey Oliver 🙂

    You’ve got real good points about the years and the SDA link.

    I think the members I’ve talked to would say:

    1) He began preaching as soon as he was baptized even though he didn’t officially start the church until 1964. I don’t buy that. Why would he not start his ‘true church’ immediately?

    2)The SDA had some of the truth and was the best at the time, that’s why he was baptized with them. I don’t buy that either. If it still wasn’t the ‘true church’ why give it his approval by being baptized with them?

    #41816

    In the article about Ahnshanghong coming up short on his 37 years, there is a link to the wms official website where Joo Cheol Kim says that the Passover was not preached until 1964. According to the wms, the reason they “know” that ahsahnghong is “god” is because he “restored” the passover and “fulfilled the prophecy of king david”(37 years + Jesus’s 3). But he cannot be “god” even according to their own self-manufactured prophecies if he didn’t “restore” the passover until 1964! Ahnsahnghong comes up 16 years short!

    #41817

    genny
    Participant

    Good points!  Here's another, for when the wmscog wants to claim that Ahn was preaching as soon as he was baptised, even if he didn't officially start his church until 1964….

    The wmscog is all about "copy and shadow" right?  If they are want to claim that the 40 years of David's rule was a shadow of the reign of the Messiah, 40 years–3 years for Jesus and 37 for Ahnsahnghong, show them 2 Samuel 5:5.  It comes right after their favorite verse for this, 2 Samuel 5:4…

    2 Sam. 5:4-5 "David was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned forty years.  In Hebron he reigned over Judah 7 years and 6 months, and in Jerusalem he reigned over all Israel and Judah thirty-three years."

    According to the wmscog's own theory of "copy and shadow," Jesus should have reigned 7 years and Ahn should have reigned 33 years.  Also, shouldn't Ahn have been baptized at 37 years old, because that's how old David was when he finally became king over all of Israel?

    #41818

    WHOAMI
    Member

    Hailey Stevens wrote:

    In the article about Ahnshanghong coming up short on his 37 years, there is a link to the wms official website where Joo Cheol Kim says that the Passover was not preached until 1964. According to the wms, the reason they "know" that ahsahnghong is "god" is because he "restored" the passover and "fulfilled the prophecy of king david"(37 years + Jesus's 3). But he cannot be "god" even according to their own self-manufactured prophecies if he didn't "restore" the passover until 1964! Ahnsahnghong comes up 16 years short!

     wow i was not aware of this!

    #41819

    Simon
    Member

    Actually the website says kept not preahed

    #41820

    Emily
    Member

    shimon wrote:

    Actually the website says kept not preahed

    I saw that they used the word "celebrated".  But how do you restore something and then don't bother to celebrate it?  If the Passover is that important for your salvation, as the wms believes, how do you wait to celebrate it a few years later?  

    #41821

    Simon
    Member

    I dunno the context so there could be meaning in context

    I don’t mean to attempt to.validate wmscog but ncpcog has a book about passover from him in the fifties so I assume he himself attempted.to keep it sooner

    #41822

    Rahab
    Member

    Didn't Herbert W. Armstrong claim that he restored the New Covenant Passover as well?

    #41823

    Simon
    Member

    No he keeps Old Covenant Feasts so it is a different situation.

    #41824

    Simon
    Member

    well not Old Covenant either some kinda hodgepodge adhoc thingie but it wasn't the same as ASH

    #41825

    genny
    Participant

    It looked the same to me.  Can you be more specific about how the Armstrong Passover differed from the ASH Passover?

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