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According to this article the belief of a heavenly mother has been around since the 1800's, so why is it that wms claims that no other church has a mother god.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavenly_Mother#Mormonism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Christianity#Early_Joseph_Smith_era
*note for the below article and website* I found this website speaking of a Heavenly Mother and Mormonism, but after I put up the website it showed article has been removed, so I copied and paste, it's linked to Joseph Smith Heavenly Mother, on google search, don't want people to think I'm making this up.
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This article is about Heavenly Mother within the Latter Day Saint movement. For a more broad view, see Heavenly Mother.
In Mormonism, Heavenly Mother or the Mother in Heaven is the mother of human spirits and the wife of God the Father. Those who accept the Mother in Heaven doctrine trace its origins to Joseph Smith, the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement. The doctrine was not widely known, however, until after the movement's succession crisis upon Smith's death in 1844.
The Heavenly Mother doctrine is mainly taught by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church[2] the Restoration Church of Jesus Christ [3] and branches of Mormon fundamentalism, such as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints[citation needed] The doctrine is not generally recognized by other faiths within the broader Latter Day Saint movement, such as the Community of Christ, where Trinitarianism is predominant.
In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, she is sung about in one church hymn and briefly discussed in church teaching manuals and [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavenly_Mother_(Mormonism)
In an interesting correlation, the Egyptians worshipped the goddess Nut as the Queen of Heaven or Heavenly Mother. Gnostic Christians have a mother figure named Sophia.
"She is sometimes identified with the Holy Spirit itself but, according to her various capacities, is also the Universal Mother, the Mother of the Living or Resplendent Mother, the Power on High, She-of-the-left-hand (as opposed to Christ, understood as her husband and he of the Right Hand), as the Luxurious One, the Womb, the Virgin, the Wife of the Male, the Revealer of Perfect Mysteries, the Holy Dove of the Spirit, the Heavenly Mother, the Wandering One, or Elena (that is, Selene, the Moon). She was envisaged as the Psyche of the world and the female aspect ofLogos"
The Vedas speak of many female or mother aspects of deity, the norse eddas have lots of female gods, Greek and Roman mythology has a bunch too. The Unification Church teaches that God is a…wait for it..unified! (I didn't see it coming, felt so dumb!) being of male and female aspects. I guess it's just natural that we ascribe a female quality to god or have a female deity along with a male. That's life for us. Probably the same reason we say at Shemot 34:14 that God's name is jealous, and that he (she?) is a jealous God. 😉
Brother, you’re jewish?
No ma'am. I don't even know what I'd call myself. Agnostic maybe? I think God by definition is beyond the scope of human knowledge. Though I do respect any pursuit of God, whatever your particular flavor may be. I find a lot of fulfillment spiritually from lots of different places, be it the Bible, the Rig Veda, one of the many Egyptian texts, or stories from my native American or Scotch ancestors. I don't know that any one of them are "true", but for me they all boil down to the same message. Do good, love everyone, honor your family. I can believe in that.
Which is why i think there is one true God. Every religion besides those who worship satan have the same basic belief. a friend of mine came across a satanists Bible.
If you're referring to the Laveyan "Satanic Bible", Renita, if my memory serves me correctly even Lavey himself admitted they didn't worship Satan in the Christian sense. It was more like a worship of the self. I always heard about "satanic cults" and stuff growing up, but you never really see anything like that on the news anywhere, ya know? I'm just not sure how big Satanism actually is. And I'd have to agree with Hal. God is God. All encompassing.
I know its hard separate yourself from what you believe and discuss something with general or broad view of things. The being hal calls god isn’t the same being a hindu calls god. To say god is god is to say we all worship the same god. If this is true then there are no such things as false gods or cults in mine eyes.
My friend was telling me the things she read in the satanic bible aren’t all bad. I remember somewhat agreeing with the things she told me about. Also, at that time I had stopped going to the cog. But I still felt that if you believe satan is bad, why read his bible? Which is why a lot of cog members won’t come to this site because f&m say its bad. So why read it?
To say god is god is to say we all worship the same god. If this is true then there are no such things as false gods or cults in mine eyes.
I don't think there is a false god, if there's only one there's only one. Cults however, in the sense that we're talking about on this website, are absolutely "false. And Hal, I like that philosophy. That God reveals godself to different people in different fashions.
So, god revealed herself as god in the form of zhang.
So, god revealed herself as god in the form of zhang.
Crap! You've got me there I think Renita. Along my current line of reasoning, I suppose that's possible. Though the wealth of information on this website would contend otherwise.
Crap! You've got me there I think Renita. Along my current line of reasoning, I suppose that's possible. Though the wealth of information on this website would contend otherwise.
I have a bit of a technical question I guess then Hal. Does the Torah "out rank" the Talmud as far as how a Jew should live his or her life? Are there places they are in disagreement? Admittedly, I've never studied the Talmud, though I've read many quotations. I'm just not sure how the laws work. Also, do you think it would be ok for a goy to just go to a sinagogue to seek some answers? I'm really interested in Judaism, but I'd hate to do something un-kosher, as it were.
I have a bit of a technical question I guess then Hal. Does the Torah "out rank" the Talmud as far as how a Jew should live his or her life? Are there places they are in disagreement? Admittedly, I've never studied the Talmud, though I've read many quotations. I'm just not sure how the laws work. Also, do you think it would be ok for a goy to just go to a sinagogue to seek some answers? I'm really interested in Judaism, but I'd hate to do something un-kosher, as it were.
I do hope y’all are able to follow me as I switch “personalities” in different posts. Sometimes I posts as a member of the cog, sometimes as a christian, sometimes as an agnostic person. Ultimately, I’m agnostic. =)
I do hope y’all are able to follow me as I switch “personalities” in different posts. Sometimes I posts as a member of the cog, sometimes as a christian, sometimes as an agnostic person. Ultimately, I’m agnostic. =)
I'm on your frequency, Renita.
I'm on your frequency, Renita.
Thanks Hal, I've found a place locally that I'll be visiting soon. They only meet like one Saturday out of the month, I don't think the community around here is very large.
Thanks Hal, I've found a place locally that I'll be visiting soon. They only meet like one Saturday out of the month, I don't think the community around here is very large.
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