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I was recently contacted by someone who is "inside" the wmscog, wants to get out but has some extenuating circumstances. Anyhow that's a side story for now. During the course of conversation this person has enlightened me with regard to some diddy's from one of my favorite people.
As some of you already know the "special means law" was created to explain away the fact that ahnsahnghong himself said in his writings there was NO mother god. in fact i believe he was heard to say IT's RIDICULOUS to think there is a mother god.
Of course this would be terrible PR for the wmscog so a certain pastor (i think) came up with the "special means law" which baisically gave Ahn the right and duty to lie to protect the truth. Now this worked so well in explaining away the truth (that AHN said there was NO mother god) they have decided to elevate the law to a commandment type status.
So now the "special means law" encompasses everything that is questioned that they have no good explanation for or you could say, permission granted to lie whenever you want, to whoever asks you a question that the wmscog doesn't have an answer for.
This is how it is explained: "If an intruder breaks into your house and attacks you and your family and you grab a lamp and beat him over the head with it, the lamp is a weapon for good. when you are done beating the person with the lamp you put the lamp down and it becomes just a good lamp again."
These guys are absolutely brilliant and if they ever get out of jail i would seriously consider hiring them…at a little less than minimum wage.
Next up a movie review "Putting on the full armor of god" a wmscog classic! I'm getting the whole 4 part series today woohoo
Njpac?
Harry wrote:
At the passover this year at NJPAC everybody had to sign one or you couldn't get in.
translation: sign it or go burn in hell……nice huh
Once you've got them eating out your hand, the chance of someone refusing to sign is pretty slim. I doubt very much they would ask someone to sign before baptism. Most would refuse in that case.
Wow, I never heard that one before. I heard that they were having Passover there, but didn't know you had to sign a non-disclosure to get in. That is unbelievable. I wonder how they handled people who refused, or if any actually did refuse.
What is their reason for signing a NDA to keep Passover? That’s ridiculous! Every year I kept Passover everything was the same. Everything “comes from the bible” so what are they trying to hide? I’m freaking glad I’m out. That mess right there should have given some people a wake up call. I just don’t understand the purpose of that. Like I said before…they don’t have salvation to give anyway. I foresee a mass exodus of people leaving because its just getting too ridiculous!
Harry wrote:
At the passover this year at NJPAC everybody had to sign one or you couldn't get in.
translation: sign it or go burn in hell……nice huh
Are your serious?
Harry wrote:
At the passover this year at NJPAC everybody had to sign one or you couldn't get in.
translation: sign it or go burn in hell……nice huh
Disturbed wrote:
What is their reason for signing a NDA to keep Passover? That's ridiculous! Every year I kept Passover everything was the same. Everything "comes from the bible" so what are they trying to hide? I'm freaking glad I'm out. That mess right there should have given some people a wake up call. I just don't understand the purpose of that. Like I said before…they don't have salvation to give anyway. I foresee a mass exodus of people leaving because its just getting too ridiculous!
If this is a fact, it is outrageous! very clever getting people to sign a nda right before they take the passover, which thousands believe in. How low can you go. I could just imagine them planning this.
Disturbed is 100% correct many should have had a wake up call, but I know by experience that it was not easy for those members who doubt. I hope they signed a fake name!
wow..
A NDA does not prevent you from testifying and reporting illegal activities, it only prevents people who DO NOT have evidence from slandering and telling lies. If you had any compelling evidence an NDA wouldn’t matter to you. But it does matter to you, because baseless lies are the only thing you have to convince people with.
Lol right
144000 wrote:
A NDA does not prevent you from testifying and reporting illegal activities, it only prevents people who DO NOT have evidence from slandering and telling lies. If you had any compelling evidence an NDA wouldn't matter to you. But it does matter to you, because baseless lies are the only thing you have to convince people with.
So 144000 by this you are saying that yes the church handed out a "NDA" form for members to sign before they enter the building to partake in the passover of 2013. The person that said this in the pervious page is not making this up.
Did I understand correctly? Yes or No? Thanks in advance for your reply.
Why is the church handing out NDAs period? If you have the undeniable truth why would you care if your members share it with non members? No one can “slander” the undeniable truth.
144000 wrote:
A NDA does not prevent you from testifying and reporting illegal activities, it only prevents people who DO NOT have evidence from slandering and telling lies. If you had any compelling evidence an NDA wouldn't matter to you. But it does matter to you, because baseless lies are the only thing you have to convince people with.
You need an NDA to sue someone who is spreading baseless lies? Is that the American legal system?
Understanding Confidentiality Agreements
David V. Radack
Confidentiality agreements, sometimes called secrecy or nondisclosure agreements, are contracts entered into by two or more parties in which some or all of the parties agree that certain types of information that pass from one party to the other or that are created by one of the parties will remain confidential. Such agreements are often used when a company or individual has a secret process or a new product that it wants another company to evaluate as a precursor to a comprehensive licensing agreement. Or, perhaps one party wants to evaluate another’s existing commercial product for a new and different application.
Confidentiality agreements perform several functions. First and most obviously, they protect sensitive technical or commercial information from disclosure to others. One or more participants in the agreement may promise to not disclose technical information received from the other party. If the information is revealed to another individual or company, the injured party has cause to claim a breach of contract and can seek injunctive and monetary damages.
Second, the use of confidentiality agreements can prevent the forfeiture of valuable patent rights. Under U.S. law and in other countries as well, the public disclosure of an invention can be deemed as a forfeiture of patent rights in that invention. A properly drafted confidentiality agreement can avoid the undesired—and often unintentional—forfeiture of valuable patent rights.
Third, confidentiality agreements define exactly what information can and cannot be disclosed. This is usually accomplished by specifically classifying the nondisclosible information as confidential or proprietary. The definition of this term is, of course, subject to negotiation. As one would imagine, the company or individual disclosing the confidential information (the “discloser”) would like the definition to be as all-inclusive as possible; on the other hand, the company receiving the confidential information (the “recipient”) would like to see as narrowly focused a definition as possible.
The type of information that can be included under the umbrella of confidential information is virtually unlimited. Any information that flows between the parties can be considered confidential—data, know-how, prototypes, engineering drawings, computer software, test results, tools, systems, and specifications. This list is certainly not exhaustive but does illustrate the breadth of items that can be deemed confidential.
Most confidentiality agreements exclude certain types of information from the definition of confidential information. It is very important that the recipient include these exceptions in the confidentiality agreement. Some commonly employed exceptions are information that the recipient can demonstrate that they had prior to receipt of information from the discloser, information that becomes known to the public through no fault of the recipient, information that becomes known to the recipient from a third party that has a lawful right to disclose the information, information that was public knowledge before the disclosure of the information to the recipient, and information independently created by the recipient.
The confidentiality agreement can also limit each party’s use of the confidential information. For example, the confidentiality agreement can specify that the confidential information is to be used only to evaluate the discloser’s product and cannot be used in the recipient’s business.
An important point that must be covered in any confidentiality agreement is the standard by which the parties will handle the confidential information. Usually, each party will treat the other’s confidential information in the same way that it treats its own. However, this treatment is acceptable only if the recipient has set standards for handling confidential information, such as limiting access to the information or other methods of preserving secrecy. Therefore, before signing a confidentiality agreement, it would be prudent to investigate the recipient’s practices regarding maintaining secrecy of its own information. If those practices are substandard or even nonexistent, the confidentiality agreement should contain specific provisions concerning limiting access to the confidential information (e.g., clearly marking the information “confidential”).
The agreement must establish a time period during which disclosures will be made and the period during which confidentiality of the information is to be maintained. Some poorly drafted confidentiality agreements will only specify one of these time periods. Furthermore, even if both time periods are specified, it is important to make sure that a starting point is established for the time period during which confidentiality of the information is to be maintained. If this starting point is not set forth, problems can occur down the road. For example, imagine a confidentiality agreement that specifies that disclosures will be made over a two-year period and that the information must be kept confidential for three years. No starting point is specified for the confidentiality term. If a company receives the confidential information on the day before the disclosure term ends, does the company have to keep the information confidential for three years from that date or for one year from that date? Obviously, it is to the recipient’s advantage to make the confidentiality time period start with the beginning of the disclosure time period, whereas it is to the discloser’s advantage to make the confidentiality period start with the date of disclosure of the confidential information. The point is that the confidentiality agreement should specifically state the starting date for the confidentiality time period in order to avoid any ambiguity.
Additionally, confidentiality agreements should contain a provision stating that no implied license to the technology or information is to be granted to the recipient and that all tangible embodiments of the information (e.g., models, data, and drawings) should be returned upon request and in no event later than the end of the agreement term, and that no copies shall be retained by the recipient.
In conclusion, there are several situations where a confidentiality agreement is appropriate and may be proposed. Knowing a few basic points concerning confidentiality agreements can ensure that the important purposes they serve will not be defeated by ambiguities or ignorance of the meaning of terms used in the agreement.
I don’t know what was so secretive about Passover that dictates the necessity of NDA. Are they going to patent the bread & wine? I mean come on. Most of us on this forum have kept many Passovers at WMSCOG. If your ceremony is based on the bible, what is secretive about that?
Brings back an important question…why does God need to sue His creation? If the point is for the whole world to be saved due to keeping the Passover, then what is the big secret? Oh yeah, Passover happens to be the biggest money maker for the church like Black Friday is to retailers.
Disturbed wrote:
I don't know what was so secretive about Passover that dictates the necessity of NDA. Are they going to patent the bread & wine? I mean come on. Most of us on this forum have kept many Passovers at WMSCOG. If your ceremony is based on the bible, what is secretive about that?
Brings back an important question…why does God need to sue His creation? If the point is for the whole world to be saved due to keeping the Passover, then what is the big secret? Oh yeah, Passover happens to be the biggest money maker for the church like Black Friday is to retailers.
So.. actually the NDA has nothing to do with spreading lies like 144,00 tried to sell.
No Renita. As you can see, they have never hesitated to sue those who they claimed were lying. They don't require a NDA for it.
The main purpose of the NDA is to intimidate members who leave or want to leave. For most people, the fact that they signed a legal looking document would frighten them into avoiding making disclosures of the happenings inside.
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