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- March 7, 2015 at 6:36 AM#7722DefaultParticipant
And something happens, what's the plan for this group?
In the event the world carries-on, where does that leave these people? Or is this finally when the charade is over…
- March 7, 2015 at 8:30 AM #68099
SmurfParticipantSorry to disappoint you, this is not where it ends. Sun Myung Moon died and the Moonies are just fine 🙂
But if you can put them on the record for that, that Zhang is not going to die, well.. that's another story.
March 7, 2015 at 5:13 PM #68100
Curious1ParticipantI don't think if Zang dies, it will come out. Learning from the things that happened when Ahn died, they won't tell a soul outside a small group. Her "phonecalls", her appereance in the videos will still be the same now and in 50 years.
March 7, 2015 at 6:04 PM #68101
setufreeParticipantThis is something I have asked various members, leaders and believers.
They keep the answer pretty vague, if she's physically ill, which is the latest rumour/news it is blamed on the members for making her suffer while we keep sinning. If her physical body dies, her spirit will live on and I'm sure the general Pastor and his physical family will continue to run the show. Most members are aware of this, therefore hold him very high almost as high as Ahnsahnhong.
IMO I personally think it will be worse when she physically dies. I think the members will be blamed and made to feel guilty over it. Which means, higher tithing, more fasting, even more time doing church activities, and being more controlled. On the east coast fasting for days is considered like a punishment for not recruiting enough and members fully comply. Imagine if Mother dies , honestly it scares me.
March 8, 2015 at 7:19 AM #68102
Curious1ParticipantSetufree, I never thought of it that way. But the way you put it sounds logic, scary enough. What was the longest fasting in a row, you've heard about? You mentioned fasting for day as a punishment.
March 8, 2015 at 4:14 PM #68103
setufreeParticipantCurius1 the longest witnessed 4 days no water food, the shortest 1 day. Or they do fast for a few days, then the very next week fast again, which IMO cannot be healthy for the body. I understand other cultures such as Muslims do it as well but not like this and they take the right preparations. Here it’s done like a punishment, not mandatory but usually entire church participates out of fear of shunning, hurting Mother, etc
March 8, 2015 at 5:14 PM #68104
Jesus_will_set_u_freeParticipantMany people are expectantly waiting for this day to come, because they think this will be the end of this charade, but in fact i think it would be the beggining, since probably all the higher ups will make member do like Setufree just said. They will make members become more guilty, and turn then into more activities, more recruiting and more crap… since father and mother will be together in heaven the end of times will be more closer than ever before and they are just waiting on the last few souls to regret, get baptized, and accept mother and father… I already can imagine a picture in my head without this even happening just yet.
March 8, 2015 at 5:26 PM #68105
DefaultParticipantHere is my undersanding of the way it will all go down…
Mother will require everyone to report to their respective Zions in preperation for end times. As the rapture begins or world ends, mother will take with her- all those deserving. Thats it… No plan B, no believing in general pastor (I've asked specifically). This is their twisted version of what the bible testifies. Now, that may all change if she dies in her sleep or falls down a flight of steps… I'm sure someone, somewhere is making preperations for the next chapter of this mess.
As far as fasting- it jsut ended in my area… Two rounds, one weekend… Then for about 5 days I think. Extreme weight loss, mood swings, sickness, etc… One might've been to celebrate Ahn's passing, but I'm not 100% certain. What I do know is they simulated meals he ate, to break the fast as guess as a way to pay homage.
March 9, 2015 at 2:11 AM #68106
JoshuaParticipantWe can make god physically unable to carry on? If we sin alot then it's possible that god will die? If the Bible is true. which I believe it is, I will need to have my brain removed before I will believe this mess. I hope current members are offended by my last statement and comment on it a lot! I could p/o/o/p a less foul smelling doctrine.
March 10, 2015 at 3:37 AM #68107
Love'n HoneyParticipantHi! =)
March 10, 2015 at 8:45 AM #68108March 10, 2015 at 4:38 PM #68109
Love'n HoneyParticipantProbably.. I came back here to read up on some stuff because i got curious. I have a bunch of projects going on so i won’t be able to obsess Like before but.. Yea.. =)
March 10, 2015 at 7:00 PM #68110
AzulaParticipantsetufree wrote:
….I personally think it will be worse when she physically dies. I think the members will be blamed and made to feel guilty over it. Which means, higher tithing, more fasting, even more time doing church activities, and being more controlled. On the east coast fasting for days is considered like a punishment for not recruiting enough and members fully comply. Imagine if Mother dies , honestly it scares me.
I fully agree with this sentiment. Judging by how the were able to recruit after ash died. I'm sure there were others affected by the cult then who would've hoped it would fail but well look at how the deception grew. By carefully omitting certain critical elements of the man's life and teachings he became a god who had restored the perfect bondage, sorry I mean "truth".
The same will probably happen after mama z kicks the bucket. Isn't it they believe that all they do is somehow biblical in origin. They believe that they are the rock in the Daniel 2 that "will endure forever" so they will drive the members through this so called "truth".
March 10, 2015 at 9:14 PM #68111
Laughing LastParticipantAin't never been to Heaven but I been to Oklahoma…..
March 10, 2015 at 11:28 PM #68112
koba sosoParticipantI have heard talk that she has already died and that they no longer recieve her video sermons in zion and only "messages" from her in the elohist and through the overseers.
March 11, 2015 at 12:32 AM #68113
Laughing LastParticipant6/21/14…
March 11, 2015 at 5:43 AM #68114
koba sosoParticipantwhat happend on 6/21/14?
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DefaultParticipantMarch 14, 2015 at 12:30 AM #68118
JoshuaParticipantThere is an article that I have been unable to verify that states that Zahng died on 6/21/14. If I was anyone in the WMSCOG I would want to verify that she was still alive and debunk this article. Currently I have been unable to verify either way (alive or dead) and as time goes on I more of the mind that she is dead and on one went to Heaven as the WMSCOG claimed they would. Well, they also claimed that Zahng/Chang/Chung (she's had so many names) would never die. So much for their doctrine and/or prophecy.
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