Comments on: New Song Book – Only for the 144,000?

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 02 Aug 2022 02:33:40 +0000

Mí amigo va a esta iglesia y siempre dice que sólo 144 mil pueden cantar las canciones de su himnorio,lo que es gracioso porque cualquier persona que sepa leer partituras puede entonar los cantos además si libro contiene cánticos e himnos luteranos, Bautistas,católicos,metodista y pentecostales

By: Aqua

Aqua — Mon, 06 Jan 2020 01:33:40 +0000

They never taught that the world will end in 2012 I was in the church before then

By: T.H.

T.H. — Fri, 08 Sep 2017 16:37:03 +0000

In reply to Lhei. Lhei, I'm sorry but you really missed on your point here. Why are we focused on them? They are one of the groups that claim to be the only ones with the "truth". It's not that God has singled them out like the Children of Israel, no they have done it to themselves. With their Us vs Them mentality they invite this deserved mistrust. Not having a sense of direction doesn't give a group like this the authority to give you one. it's not the shock of something different but their insistence that you not research their claims or dispute their teachings that causes the problem. Christianity is something that you can easily research outside of the church and outside of the Bible. Everywhere you search there is evidence for Christianity. This group deserves the criticism they get and the destruction that they bring into peoples lives will keep folks like us fighting against them. Remember, this is NOT a church of the one true God. They have created their own gods and false doctrines to follow. Being a Christian is hard enough but groups like this twisting scriptures and jumping around the Bible looking for verses to support their own conclusions is just plain wrong! No wonder it's confusing!

By: Lhei

Lhei — Mon, 04 Sep 2017 06:03:58 +0000

To Answer this.. Don’t you trust them? Who? You? or WMSCOG? If you and those commenting to ruin other’s reputation. then it’s a BIG YES. How can you tell that they manipulated other person? Does it seem ironic that it’s not the only church that has been established in this world? So, why are you pointing on them? Why can’t they read something like this? As for me, reading something so devastating and negative like this makes me a negative thinker and judgemental as well. I prefer knowing it on my own. Once i set it on my mind then that’s the time that I can tell whether it’s true or not. I was preached by this church as well so I think i understand why they are putting those regulations. For us humans, something new will always gives us a shock to the point that we’re going to doubt whether to accept or not. Once you accept it and find something like this makes one person confused. Especially if you don’t have your own sense of decision. Whether the church is true or not, it’s up to the member’s or other people to tell by themselves not by you and your posts. Remember it’s a Church, in the end only God can tell what is the true one. I repeat ONE. One and Only true Church. Not by a mere sinful human like me and just like you. If they believe in WMSCOG, let them be. If you don’t, just don’t judge. You’re making yourself just like a criticizer of the Early Church. Why are you digging so much? Do you have any grudge on that Church? XD

By: mountainmom

mountainmom — Fri, 24 Feb 2017 21:18:28 +0000

Hi Continuous. So happy you found your way out of the Wms. Enjoy your freedom, and I am also happy you continue to read your Bible without their influence. I want to join T.H. in inviting you to join the forum part of this site. I would like to contact you if possible, even if just to send you a private message.

By: Continuous Lee

Continuous Lee — Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:48:22 +0000

In reply to T.H..

T.H., Thank you. I agree with you about how groups use the NIV to twist and mistranslate scripture. I was asked (instructed) to get an NIV when I came to WMSCOG, even though I was fluent and comfortable with the KJV Bible.
What hurts the most is that they have removed failed prophecies from their books which they claim were written by God Himself.
How can a true church subtract words from such an important book?
It is not easy separating myself, but I am now studying the Bible without their biased influence.
Thanks again for your advice.

By: T.H.

T.H. — Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:35:40 +0000

In reply to Continuous Lee. Lee, I'm glad to see that the real truth is becoming obvious to you. It is far better when a member chooses to leave the WMS instead of being kicked out and told not to return. Point of fact is that you have been abused by this group! It's understandable that you would have liked for the WMS to be the truth and it is also understandable that you would try to find justification to try and make it so. It is a natural instinct. Please don't feel bad about it. Now is the time that you need to discover life outside of the lies of the WMS. I would encourage you to put aside all of the books and teachings of the WMS for now. I would also encourage you to go out and buy yourself a new Bible preferably one with multiple translations in it. (Mine has four in one.) Many of the things you have been taught have been mistranslated. Most of the time this happens I have found that the offending group is using the NIV. The NIV is the version that the WMS uses! Find a Bible that will give you a bigger picture of what the Bible means. I hope I have encouraged you in some way. please visit the forum and PM some of the people there as many of them are willing to talk and help if they can.

By: Continuous Lee

Continuous Lee — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:59:34 +0000

I am here to set the record straight. I was told by the missionary at my current Zion, that the world could not go past 2012.

This was taught to me as prophecy in the year 2010 until 2012.
After 2012 passed they had all of us go to a meeting in Chicago Zion,
where we were “educated” that Father AhnSahngHong never said the world would end in 2012.

Here is my issue. If Father never said it, WHY did a Deacon, a Deaconess and the Missionary ALL say things over and over
throughout those years that “IMPLIED” that the world would end “VERY SOON” as if it could not go past 2012?

I even received a text message from a Deacon in the year 2010 or 2011, that instructed me to go and “prepare” water, food, and other supplies for World War 3!

I only had a flip phone (dumb phone) not a smart phone. so I don’t have a screen shot, but if I can find my old phone, I will
definitely take a screen shot with my newer phone, to prove the truth that various title holding members, DID teach me a prophecy that the world had
end on OR before 2012.

Also, the Missionary even preached a SERMON on the Sabbath, around March 2012 (or a 3rd day) in the which he said, in his Korean accent VERBATIM:

“Even if Father comes late and late, do you think He will come December 31?”

I have been having major disagreements with this church for a while now, and was ALMOST given an ultimatum to leave, because I have started to study the Bible for myself now, without just BELIEVING whatever PHILOSOPHY they have INDOCTRINATED me with.

I actually was hoping they were NOT LIARS, but it seems that the TRUTH has come to light whether they or I want it to or not.

What should I do? I know one thing. I should NOT cover up lies. What to do?
Sorry, I wanted to post directly to this article, not just reply to someone else.

Also, It was so evident that 2012 was a REAL teaching in this church, that other members from other Zions told me similar stories about buying extra water, food, and supplies to prepare for 2012.

If AhnSahngHong did NOT teach the 2012 end of the world lie, His so-called members / prophets should not have lied to me as well as others.

One brother and I even tried to rationalize the 2012 prophecy in early 2013 by questioning whether Father meant that the world had to end in the actual solar calendar year 2012, or if it could mean the SACRED calendar year 2012 which did not end until March (spring) of 2013!

Obviously, that time is now long past as well.

At the very least, I now doubt whether the things they have taught me about AhnSahngHong are true or not, since I never met him in person. It is sad and wrong!

By: Continuous Lee

Continuous Lee — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:30:50 +0000

In reply to Elie.

I am here to set the record straight. I was told by the missionary at my current Zion, that the world could not go past 2012. This

was taught to me as prophecy in the year 2010 until 2012. After 2012 passed they had all of us go to a meeting in Chicago Zion,

where we were “educated” that Father AhnSahngHong never said the world would end in 2012.

Here is my issue. If Father never said it, why did a Deacon, a Deaconess and the Missionary ALL say things over and over

throughout those years that “IMPLIED” that the world would end “VERY SOON” as if it could not go past 2012?

I even received a text message from a Deacon in the year 2010 or 2011, that instructed me to go and “prepare” water, food, and

other supplies for World War 3!

I only had a flip phone (dumb phone) not a smart phone. so I don’t have a screen shot, but if I can find my old phone, I will

definitely take a screen shot to prove the truth that various title holding members, DID teach me a prophecy that the world had

end on or before 2012.

Also, the Missionary even preached a SERMON on the Sabbath, around March 2012 (or a 3rd day) in the which he said, in his Korean

accent VERBATIM:

“Even if Father comes late and late, do you think He will come December 31?”

I have been having major disagreements with this church for a while now, and was ALMOST given an ultimatum to leave, because I

have started to study the Bible for myself now, without just BELIEVING whatever PHILOSOPHY they have INDOCTRINATED me with.

I actually was hoping they were NOT LIARS, but it seems that the TRUTH has come to light whether they or I want it to or not.

What should I do? I know one thing. I should NOT cover up lies. What to do?

By: Continuous Lee

Continuous Lee — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:26:02 +0000

In reply to admin.

I am here to set the record straight. I was told by the missionary at my current Zion, that the world could not go past 2012. This was taught to me as prophecy in the year 2010 until 2012. After 2012 passed they had all of us go to a meeting in Chicago Zion, where we were “educated” that Father AhnSahngHong never said the world would end in 2012.

Here is my issue. Father never said it, why did a Deacon, a Deaconess and the Missionary ALL say things over and over throughout those years that “IMPLIED” that the world would end “VERY SOON” as if it could not go past 2012?

I even received a text message from a Deacon in the year 2010 or 2011, that instructed me to go and “prepare” water, food, and other supplies for World War 3!

I only had a flip phone (dumb phone) not a smart phone. so I don’t have a screen shot, but if I can find my old phone, I will definitely take a screen shot to prove the truth that various title holding members, DID teach me a prophecy that the world had end on or before 2012.

Also, the Missionary even preached a SERMON on the Sabbath, around March 2012 (or a 3rd day) in the which he said, in his Korean accent VERBATIM:

“Even if Father comes late and late, do you think He will come December 31?”

I actually was hoping they were NOT LIARS, but it seems that the TRUTH has come to light whether they or I want it to or not.

What should I do? I know one thing. I should NOT cover up lies. What to do?