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The WMSCOG accuses other churches of “Idol Worship” in regards to the Cross. They seem to think that even displaying it in church is evil.
Doesn’t the Ten Commandments teach us not to bear false witness?
None of the Christian churches I have been to have ever taught us to worship the Cross. The Cross is used as a symbol to remind us of the great sacrifice that was made for us by Christ Jesus. This is commanded in the Bible.
The Bible says not to make any symbol to a false god and worship it. Make no brazen images. The Cross is a symbol for the REAL GOD and even so we do not worship it. Now that is not to say that some people don’t cross the line on this. If someone is worshipping the Cross they need to be corrected and if we see this worship happening and we don’t help correct it then I believe we are guilty as well. Having a Cross around also serves as a reminder that we are to love the one true God. It’s like a husband asking his wife not to love any other man. She carries a picture of her husband around with her as a reminder that he loves her. If she chose not to carry the picture she might be more easily swayed. Worse would be if she carried a picture of another man. (Jesus vs. Ahnsahnghong) This would be absolutely wrong on all counts.
Gods ways are mysterious. He uses things that we would view as vile and/or worthless to reveal his glory. He uses the stone that was disguarded by men as the Chief Corner Stone. He uses something viewed as a detestable instrument of death to reveal his glory.
Lets look at what the Bible really says about the Cross.
1 Corinthians 1:17-18 Paul states that word of the Cross is the Power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:23 describes the Cross as the Wisdom of God.
Colossians 2:15 describes the Cross as the Glory of God.
The Cross is described as Gods Wisdom, Power, and Glory. This object is viewed by man as a detestable instrument of death that was used to kill Jesus. Only man would have such a limited view as this. Gods ways are what we are striving for. The Cross was made a symbol of Gods power by God not by man.
Many people will bring up the message of the symbol of the bronze snake. God instructed the creation of the bronze snake as a symbol to lead people to him. Men twisted it around and many started worshipping the snake instead of what it represented. In Christian churches we are taught this lesson to not worship symbols but only worship the one true God. To make the statement that other churches are “Idol worshippers” is a gross defamation of character. You shall not bear false witness.
God ordered the making of many symbols in the Bible but I think that I will save this for another post. What God has sanctified we should NEVER try to remove. His ways are not our ways. Keep the reminder of God well within view at all times. It’s a reminder of the love he has for us and a testament to the fact that we belong to him. By the way, it’s a very real possibility that the seal of God is represented by the cross. The word does reveal this if you are truly seeking.
loocpoc wrote:
What they will not admit is that the worship of Zhang Jil Jah is idol worship. They accuse the jews who worship at the western wall of idolatry based upon the passage in VaYikra (and he called aka Leviticus):
"'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God. "
However, one must remember that is the closest place we can get to praying at the site of the Temple.
However, yet when you go to the churches, look for pictures of "mother".. Are they not set up images to bow down to or worship?
Ive never seen the cross as an idol to be worshipped. It is a symbol of Christianity and the faith…
no ive never worshiped or bowd down to her pictures, nor have i seen anyone to do that
loocpoc wrote:
What they will not admit is that the worship of Zhang Jil Jah is idol worship. They accuse the jews who worship at the western wall of idolatry based upon the passage in VaYikra (and he called aka Leviticus):
"'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God. "
However, one must remember that is the closest place we can get to praying at the site of the Temple.
However, yet when you go to the churches, look for pictures of "mother".. Are they not set up images to bow down to or worship?
Ive never seen the cross as an idol to be worshipped. It is a symbol of Christianity and the faith…
no ive never worshiped or bowd down to her pictures, nor have i seen anyone to do that
the cross isnt an idol?? how come people put it on their rearview mirrors? or even hold it when they pray?.. it has turned into a goodluck charm… which is in fact an idol…
the cross isnt an idol?? how come people put it on their rearview mirrors? or even hold it when they pray?.. it has turned into a goodluck charm… which is in fact an idol…
Idol: an image or statue of a deity fashioned to be an object of worship. The English word, which has a pejorative meaning, reflects several different Hebrew words. Some of these are neutral terms, e.g., pasil or peel, “(carved) image”, and massekah, “(cast) image”. For these the pejorative “idol” is not always appropriate; “image” or “statue” is sometimes better. Other Hebrew words for statues of deities are intentionally contemptuous and therefore are appropriately translated “idols”, e.g., ‘elilim, ” powerless ones”, gillulim, “pellets of dung,” and shiqqutsim, “shameful things.”. Statues of deities are a common feature of ancient Near Eastern religions. Exactly how the ancients imagined their gods to be present in the statues is not easy to discern. They did not necessarily believe that the image itself was the god. Rather, they may have believed that the image made it possible for the god to encounter the worshiper.
Idol: an image or statue of a deity fashioned to be an object of worship. The English word, which has a pejorative meaning, reflects several different Hebrew words. Some of these are neutral terms, e.g., pasil or peel, “(carved) image”, and massekah, “(cast) image”. For these the pejorative “idol” is not always appropriate; “image” or “statue” is sometimes better. Other Hebrew words for statues of deities are intentionally contemptuous and therefore are appropriately translated “idols”, e.g., ‘elilim, ” powerless ones”, gillulim, “pellets of dung,” and shiqqutsim, “shameful things.”. Statues of deities are a common feature of ancient Near Eastern religions. Exactly how the ancients imagined their gods to be present in the statues is not easy to discern. They did not necessarily believe that the image itself was the god. Rather, they may have believed that the image made it possible for the god to encounter the worshiper.
many people died on crosses. not just jesus, it was a tool used to kill people so i dont understand the signifigance of a piece of wood/silver/gold.. but again, to each his own, if you wanna wear a cross, its your right.
I think i have officially turned agnostic again…. Im sure God will lead my soul wherever need it be.
many people died on crosses. not just jesus, it was a tool used to kill people so i dont understand the signifigance of a piece of wood/silver/gold.. but again, to each his own, if you wanna wear a cross, its your right.
I think i have officially turned agnostic again…. Im sure God will lead my soul wherever need it be.
Well to be honest, at one point (because of prophecy) i believed in jesus. but thats the exact same reason why i believed in ahn.. if ahn isnt true,in my opinion, what makes him diff from jesus? all i know about jesus is what was writtin about him, for all we know he had kids as well… idk, people think its strange i believed in a korean man to be god, but if thats strange, then so is a jewish man being god…. u know?
donttrustzang wrote:
Well to be honest, at one point (because of prophecy) i believed in jesus. but thats the exact same reason why i believed in ahn.. if ahn isnt true,in my opinion, what makes him diff from jesus? all i know about jesus is what was writtin about him, for all we know he had kids as well… idk, people think its strange i believed in a korean man to be god, but if thats strange, then so is a jewish man being god…. u know?
God chose Jerusalem as his holy land and the isralites as the chosen ppl, it says so in the O.T. but the bible does not say korea, it just says from the East. So it's not really that strange.
Rain wrote:
donttrustzang wrote:
Well to be honest, at one point (because of prophecy) i believed in jesus. but thats the exact same reason why i believed in ahn.. if ahn isnt true,in my opinion, what makes him diff from jesus? all i know about jesus is what was writtin about him, for all we know he had kids as well… idk, people think its strange i believed in a korean man to be god, but if thats strange, then so is a jewish man being god…. u know?
God chose Jerusalem as his holy land and the isralites as the chosen ppl, it says so in the O.T. but the bible does not say korea, it just says from the East. So it's not really that strange.
So a virgin gave birth to a man, who could walk on water and make bread and fish from nothing, turn water into wine, and he can come back from the dead… but thats not strange??? lol im in no way trying to question your faith, but that seems just as far fetched as the wmscog saying God is in southkorea.
donttrustzang wrote:
Rain wrote:
donttrustzang wrote:
Well to be honest, at one point (because of prophecy) i believed in jesus. but thats the exact same reason why i believed in ahn.. if ahn isnt true,in my opinion, what makes him diff from jesus? all i know about jesus is what was writtin about him, for all we know he had kids as well… idk, people think its strange i believed in a korean man to be god, but if thats strange, then so is a jewish man being god…. u know?
God chose Jerusalem as his holy land and the isralites as the chosen ppl, it says so in the O.T. but the bible does not say korea, it just says from the East. So it's not really that strange.
So a virgin gave birth to a man, who could walk on water and make bread and fish from nothing, turn water into wine, and he can come back from the dead… but thats not strange??? lol im in no way trying to question your faith, but that seems just as far fetched as the wmscog saying God is in southkorea.
WOOO…i think i need alot of help here….what the hec these ppl did to you! if you believed at one point in Ahnsanghong, then you believed in Jesus, because he's suppose to be the same God. but now that your not there anymore, you don't even have faith in Jesus. Remember God can do anything, so it should still not be strange. as far as being far fetched, Ahnsanghong is not the root of david, how can a korean be an offspring of a jewish man. that's far fetched to me
I'm just stating my opinion, and if I did come out wrong, I apologize. @donttrustzang, if my post offends you in any way i apologize, it is not my intention, just my reaction, towards the church and what they do to it's members.
Rain wrote:
I'm just stating my opinion, and if I did come out wrong, I apologize. @donttrustzang, if my post offends you in any way i apologize, it is not my intention, just my reaction, towards the church and what they do to it's members.
oh no worries. i totally understand where your heart is. but im just explaining where mine is as well…
The only reason i believed in jesus is because of the wmscog. Before them i was agnostic. The prophecies they showed about Jesus are in the O.T.
The only way you can believe in jesus, is if you have faith he fulfilled them and if you have faith in what the bible says he did.
I feel like if the wmscog and ahn and zang are fake, then there is also that possibility jesus is fake too, and everything written about him is fake.
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