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    Love'n Honey
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    But Senor Ramon clearly says he's the Elijah so it must be true…. (sarcasm. Idk a Senor Ramon). As I was taught in the COG, for anyone to claim to be any of the prophetical people, that person must fulfills the prophecy. This is the 2nd inconsistency* I have seen in the claimed perfect bible so far. John the Baptist didn't do what the Elijah was supposed to do. Just because Jesus says, "I'm God" that doesn't mean we should believe Him. We have to look into the prophecy. Which leads to the question I had earlier, how do we know which part of a story is prophecy & which part is not?

    Mt 17:11, Jesus explained that the Elijah will restore all things. verse 12 He said that the Elijah already came. Which tells me that all things were restored. Verse 13 says John the Baptist was the Elijah but he didn't restore anything because nothing had been lost to begin with. That doesn't make sense.

    #45044

    Simon
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    Jesus clearly said he was the Elijah who was to come. (of course you do not follow Jesus but speaking from a Christian perspective)

    #45043

    genny
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    loocpoc wrote:

    genny wrote:

    renita.payno wrote:

    John the Baptist was not the Elijah.

    Mark 9:12-13 would indicate that he was.

     I wouldnt say so 🙂

     

    John The Baptist was basically taking an already established tradition and just reworking it.

    You disagree with the New Testament, so I'm not surprised. 🙂

    But for someone who believes in the New Testament, then Mark 9:12-13 should tell them that John the Baptist was the Elijah.

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    genny
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    renita.payno wrote:

    John the Baptist was not the Elijah.

    Mark 9:12-13 would indicate that he was.

    #45041

    Love'n Honey
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    John the Baptist was not the Elijah.

    #45040

    Simon
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    Health benefits are antiquated

    #45039

    Simon
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    I do not know what John restored.

    #45038

    Love'n Honey
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    Plus, how was mikvah lost for it to be restored by John?

    #45037

    Simon
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    yep. Mikvah's are not a one time thing you need to do them more often than once a life time there are several differences between them.

    #45036

    Love'n Honey
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    But the new testament says that baptism fulfills circumcision*.

    #45035

    Love'n Honey
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    What's mikvah?

    #45034

    Simon
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    okie dokie

    #45033

    Simon
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    loocpoc wrote:

    But Baptism is nothing more than a mikvah….

    can you do a mikvah in the river Jordan?

    #45032

    Love'n Honey
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    Jesus said that the Elijah would come to restore all things. Then He said the Elijah had already come. Right after that it's written that Jesus was speaking about John the Baptist. I don't remember the verse. I think it's in Luke.

    #45031

    Simon
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    First coming Christ yes.

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