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- August 15, 2013 at 11:08 PM#7390ScubaParticipant
Here is a link that says that Ahnsahnghong was baptized in 1952. It's his baptism record from the Seventh day Adventist church. It shows that he was baptized in 1952 and was expulsed from the church in 1962.
I'm sure the members would say that the Seventh day Adventist church is lying, but really what need do they have to lie? And also, he was expulsed in 1962, he didn't leave by his own will. Check this out! It's in Korean, if you don't speak korean just use Google Translate
- August 26, 2013 at 1:23 PM #25209
emilParticipantFact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
The only way this would be incontrovertible proof is if it were admitted in a courtroom in a case to show the wmscog presents a fake god, propped up by fake prophecies, and uses it to con people. Then, whichever way the case goes, the veracity of the evidence for the baptism proof is established.
Perhaps there is no need to even sue the wmscog. Perhaps a criminal complaint by those who were former members would suffice.
August 26, 2013 at 1:23 PM #64138
emilParticipantFact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
The only way this would be incontrovertible proof is if it were admitted in a courtroom in a case to show the wmscog presents a fake god, propped up by fake prophecies, and uses it to con people. Then, whichever way the case goes, the veracity of the evidence for the baptism proof is established.
Perhaps there is no need to even sue the wmscog. Perhaps a criminal complaint by those who were former members would suffice.
August 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM #64139
SmurfParticipantemil wrote:
Fact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
Right on. You have to look through a member's perspective, otherwise you'll be wasting your time. But I'd say most of them will always find a way to undermind outside sources.
So you let them expose themselves.
August 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM #25210
SmurfParticipantemil wrote:
Fact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
Right on. You have to look through a member's perspective, otherwise you'll be wasting your time. But I'd say most of them will always find a way to undermind outside sources.
So you let them expose themselves.
August 26, 2013 at 3:36 PM #24887
Curious1ParticipantReply to what upset mum said: quote "This photo was shown to members during a convention in Pasadena, CA earlier this year. This book is now on display in Korea as witnessed by others who have visited there." I was in Korea in 2010, and there was a book "written" by Ahn displayed. I can't deny or confirm if it is a fake, because I don't know his handwriting.
August 26, 2013 at 3:36 PM #64140
Curious1ParticipantReply to what upset mum said: quote "This photo was shown to members during a convention in Pasadena, CA earlier this year. This book is now on display in Korea as witnessed by others who have visited there." I was in Korea in 2010, and there was a book "written" by Ahn displayed. I can't deny or confirm if it is a fake, because I don't know his handwriting.
August 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM #24149
DisturbedParticipantI attended the seminar in Pasadena. They showed quite a few photos which I think were photoshopped. They tried to deny it (photoshopped) by saying Ash was given the negatives which allegedly wasn’t done in those days. Pictures don’t prove much in this digital age. Every time the church holds these seminars they just dig bigger holes for themselves. Prior to attending the seminar I wasn’t trolling the Internet looking for information against the church. Their counter measure activity certainly aroused my suspicions. It may turn out to be the case for members still in.
August 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM #64141
DisturbedParticipantI attended the seminar in Pasadena. They showed quite a few photos which I think were photoshopped. They tried to deny it (photoshopped) by saying Ash was given the negatives which allegedly wasn’t done in those days. Pictures don’t prove much in this digital age. Every time the church holds these seminars they just dig bigger holes for themselves. Prior to attending the seminar I wasn’t trolling the Internet looking for information against the church. Their counter measure activity certainly aroused my suspicions. It may turn out to be the case for members still in.
August 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM #64142
AnonymousInactiveDisturbed….What type of things caused you to begin trolling the internet? What activity caused arrousal of your suspicions? If you don't want to answer in thread, please PM me. I'm wondering if there is something I can use to help my loved one.
August 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM #24150
AnonymousInactiveDisturbed….What type of things caused you to begin trolling the internet? What activity caused arrousal of your suspicions? If you don't want to answer in thread, please PM me. I'm wondering if there is something I can use to help my loved one.
August 28, 2013 at 4:12 AM #64143
EmilyParticipantWhere is 144k on the baptism issue? It would be nice to hear what the wms has to say about Ahn being baptized in 1954 NOT 1948 like they claim.
August 28, 2013 at 4:12 AM #24146
EmilyParticipantWhere is 144k on the baptism issue? It would be nice to hear what the wms has to say about Ahn being baptized in 1954 NOT 1948 like they claim.
September 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM #64144
SimonParticipantMy only question is why does NCPCOG agree with WMS on the date of baptism?
September 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM #13420
SimonParticipantMy only question is why does NCPCOG agree with WMS on the date of baptism?
September 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM #13267
Ram KoiralaParticipantwho says Ahn Shang hong baptism is in 1948 this is 100% wrong his baptism is in 1954 which is very much correct.
September 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM #64145
Ram KoiralaParticipantwho says Ahn Shang hong baptism is in 1948 this is 100% wrong his baptism is in 1954 which is very much correct.
September 5, 2013 at 4:25 AM #64146
SimonParticipanthis children who expose every lie of wmscog they can
September 5, 2013 at 4:25 AM #13175
SimonParticipanthis children who expose every lie of wmscog they can
September 6, 2013 at 3:30 AM #12979
EmilyParticipantI think the ncpcog relies on the 1948 year as well. They teach similar doctrine minus the part about Ahn being divine…and the mother god thing.
September 6, 2013 at 3:30 AM #64147
EmilyParticipantI think the ncpcog relies on the 1948 year as well. They teach similar doctrine minus the part about Ahn being divine…and the mother god thing.
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