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Here is a link that says that Ahnsahnghong was baptized in 1952. It's his baptism record from the Seventh day Adventist church. It shows that he was baptized in 1952 and was expulsed from the church in 1962.
I'm sure the members would say that the Seventh day Adventist church is lying, but really what need do they have to lie? And also, he was expulsed in 1962, he didn't leave by his own will. Check this out! It's in Korean, if you don't speak korean just use Google Translate
Fact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
The only way this would be incontrovertible proof is if it were admitted in a courtroom in a case to show the wmscog presents a fake god, propped up by fake prophecies, and uses it to con people. Then, whichever way the case goes, the veracity of the evidence for the baptism proof is established.
Perhaps there is no need to even sue the wmscog. Perhaps a criminal complaint by those who were former members would suffice.
Fact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
The only way this would be incontrovertible proof is if it were admitted in a courtroom in a case to show the wmscog presents a fake god, propped up by fake prophecies, and uses it to con people. Then, whichever way the case goes, the veracity of the evidence for the baptism proof is established.
Perhaps there is no need to even sue the wmscog. Perhaps a criminal complaint by those who were former members would suffice.
emil wrote:
Fact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
Right on. You have to look through a member's perspective, otherwise you'll be wasting your time. But I'd say most of them will always find a way to undermind outside sources.
So you let them expose themselves.
emil wrote:
Fact is that we all know he is not God and she is a fraud. We do not need this evidence for ourselves. However, the blind ones will not even consider the evidence that we show them. It is strange that they would wave away such evidence as photshopped while their own proof depends totally on photoshopped images.
Right on. You have to look through a member's perspective, otherwise you'll be wasting your time. But I'd say most of them will always find a way to undermind outside sources.
So you let them expose themselves.
Reply to what upset mum said: quote "This photo was shown to members during a convention in Pasadena, CA earlier this year. This book is now on display in Korea as witnessed by others who have visited there." I was in Korea in 2010, and there was a book "written" by Ahn displayed. I can't deny or confirm if it is a fake, because I don't know his handwriting.
Reply to what upset mum said: quote "This photo was shown to members during a convention in Pasadena, CA earlier this year. This book is now on display in Korea as witnessed by others who have visited there." I was in Korea in 2010, and there was a book "written" by Ahn displayed. I can't deny or confirm if it is a fake, because I don't know his handwriting.
I attended the seminar in Pasadena. They showed quite a few photos which I think were photoshopped. They tried to deny it (photoshopped) by saying Ash was given the negatives which allegedly wasn’t done in those days. Pictures don’t prove much in this digital age. Every time the church holds these seminars they just dig bigger holes for themselves. Prior to attending the seminar I wasn’t trolling the Internet looking for information against the church. Their counter measure activity certainly aroused my suspicions. It may turn out to be the case for members still in.
I attended the seminar in Pasadena. They showed quite a few photos which I think were photoshopped. They tried to deny it (photoshopped) by saying Ash was given the negatives which allegedly wasn’t done in those days. Pictures don’t prove much in this digital age. Every time the church holds these seminars they just dig bigger holes for themselves. Prior to attending the seminar I wasn’t trolling the Internet looking for information against the church. Their counter measure activity certainly aroused my suspicions. It may turn out to be the case for members still in.
Disturbed….What type of things caused you to begin trolling the internet? What activity caused arrousal of your suspicions? If you don't want to answer in thread, please PM me. I'm wondering if there is something I can use to help my loved one.
Disturbed….What type of things caused you to begin trolling the internet? What activity caused arrousal of your suspicions? If you don't want to answer in thread, please PM me. I'm wondering if there is something I can use to help my loved one.
Where is 144k on the baptism issue? It would be nice to hear what the wms has to say about Ahn being baptized in 1954 NOT 1948 like they claim.
Where is 144k on the baptism issue? It would be nice to hear what the wms has to say about Ahn being baptized in 1954 NOT 1948 like they claim.
My only question is why does NCPCOG agree with WMS on the date of baptism?
My only question is why does NCPCOG agree with WMS on the date of baptism?
who says Ahn Shang hong baptism is in 1948 this is 100% wrong his baptism is in 1954 which is very much correct.
who says Ahn Shang hong baptism is in 1948 this is 100% wrong his baptism is in 1954 which is very much correct.
his children who expose every lie of wmscog they can
his children who expose every lie of wmscog they can
I think the ncpcog relies on the 1948 year as well. They teach similar doctrine minus the part about Ahn being divine…and the mother god thing.
I think the ncpcog relies on the 1948 year as well. They teach similar doctrine minus the part about Ahn being divine…and the mother god thing.
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