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I was brainstorming this morning when God gave me a revelation. After holding it up to the Word of God to see if God was really reavealing himself to me I decided to post it for everyones comments. This morning it was impressed on me that the WMS does not really read the Word of God. The word is taken apart, rearranged, and put together in lesson form to support whatever topic the WMS wants. It's a man made interpretation! Does God need a translater? NO! When we don't understand Gods word we are to pray for discernment and seek Godly counsel. When you're not really reading Gods word instead you're letting other people interpret it for you it opens you up to whatever those people want you to believe. It's no wonder that there are so many misinterpretations in the WMS teachings. Even when God tries to talk to a WMS member directly or indirectly (through others) the message doesn't match up and the WMS says that Satan is trying to steal their faith. Calling God Satan because the teachings are man made has got to be one of the greatest sins of all. The WMS will answer for this one day! I pray that the WMS members will open their eyes, remove the veils, (both literally and figurativley) and start reading Gods word as he gave it to us. Many things of God are not easy to understand and I know that one of the things the WMS pushes is that Gods word is not supposed to be a mystery but it clearly states that Gods ways are mysterious. Once again, this is Gods Word not mans interpretation of it. Please stop taking more and more lessons and start reading Gods word as he gave it to you. When you get confused, and you will, pray to the one true God to give you clairification. The more you trust in God the greater he will be in your life. No one can do this for you! You have to make the choice to believe the truth.
I could say the same of any Church, that I have been to at any rate, what makes WMC different?
That's an admonition that we all should take to heart, no matter what church we go to or who we study with. Thanks, Joshua.
On a similar note, here's something I noticed with my sister and the wmscog. Since we couldn't talk about Bible doctrine or discuss questions and differences without her getting stressed, but the Bible is still a big part of our lives, so I asked her to just read it with me–no debates or anything like that, just read (with a goal of reading through the Bible entirely), and we could point out any interesting words or verses (just nothing to debate about).
After a couple tries with our busy lives, we finally settled that we could read over the phone with each other, just a few chapters at a time. What could be wrong with simply reading what the Bible says, right?
Well, when we finished Isaiah and were just starting Jeremiah, she said she didn't want to read the Bible with me any more because it made her uncomfortable. We hadn't been having any doctrine discussions or arguments or anything, we had just been reading the words on the pages. Again, what in the world could be wrong with simply reading the Bible together? What would make reading the Bible 'uncomfortable'?
Can you explain that, shimon?
I have two theories. 1. By reading whole chapters and books at a time (in context) she saw that verses in context show their true meanings better than verse picked here and there and mated together Frankenstein-style as the wmscog does it. 2. The wmscog teaches that you can't read the Bible by yourself and understand it–you must have them explain it to you. And by reading it herself, she was seeing that it didn't line up well with what she had been taught. These two things would cause questioning about the wmscog, and questioning would be a mark of doubt, and doubting the 'true church' is doubting God, and that would leave her in danger of losing her salvation. (Of course, if your doubt causes you to leave a false organization, then that would actually be a good thing.)
I cannot explain her actions. I read the Bible alone all the time chapters and books at a time and it never has cast a doubt for me.
What about you? Let us make man in our image… Come let us confuse there languages… “…and who shall I send for us” and I said “here am I” do not harm the earth….until we put a seal on the servants of our God… The lord God almighty and the lamb are the temple .. The Throne of God almighty and of the lamb.. On either side if the river stood the tree of life… The two shall become one flesh
loocpoc wrote:
When G-d spoke of making man in our image, from what I remember this was meant the image of G-d and the Angels. From man he created woman.
well said. from a Christian pov, it could also be referring to the Trinity
If it meant angels it would make angels creators as well and if.it means trinity that makes three images not two and, makes three Gos not one
I cannot write that many verses, on my phone in “context” especially when, it, doesn’t change the meaning
Mother isn’t high priest and angels have as much free will as us
Let’s say that’s right father son same image holy spirit no image if the trinity is an us still not one God
No I am saying the trinity is one person not.an.us
Furthermore you are the one picking a fight
Gods word is father is son is holy spirit a truthful explanation couldn’t contradict that biblical fact,
unless you can demonstrate that Jehovah is not God the Father but God the Son and explain who God the Father is.
Lord and Adonai are titles Jehovah is a name, admittedly only a translation.
The question is if Jehovah=Jesus=Holy Spirit as the Bible testifies and "Us" and "Our" are the creators who does us and our refer to.
It cannot be Jehovah and Jesus and Holy Spirit because that would be like me saying Shimon and I will do something.
But say Jehovah who the Jews have beeing worshipping is not God the Father we could have Jehovah and the Father be an us but that doesn't seem reasonable since Jehovah says he is our Father, but maybe you have an explanation for that.
Your explanation also disocunts Jesus though which means from a Christian standpoint is still incorrect.
The Jehovah/Yehovah argument is also invalid unless you insist we called Jerusalem Yerushalyim and Abraham Avraham Isaac Yitzach and Ezekiel Yezichiel and Elijah Eliyahu et al.
Yes, you won't get a disagreement from me there.
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