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- April 23, 2013 at 7:25 PM#7265DisturbedParticipant
I have seen a few posts with people saying Zhang’s name is actually Chang. Anyone care to reveal how they verified this information? I’m not doubting, I just need to confirm with my own eyes.
I remember the first time seeing her name in print in the church. I was amazed. ASH and Zhang..the Alpha & Omega, beginning and the end. I thought, ‘truly this is our god’. More evidence of a big fat lie!
- April 23, 2013 at 8:20 PM #58647
Sarah2013ParticipantNot sure on that issue. So many names so far so I’m lost on what really is.
April 24, 2013 at 12:06 AM #58648
gennyParticipantWhen I was first researching the wmscog maybe 4 or 5 years ago I often saw it online as Chung Gil Cha. I just figured it was an alternate spelling of the same Korean name, though it doesn't sound quite the same in English as Zahng Gil Jah.
April 24, 2013 at 12:24 AM #58649
DisturbedParticipantOk so this link shows 3 different spellings of Zhang’s name. But what I found funny is that her sister was imprisoned in Korea for embezzling money from a church. I guess it runs in the family. LOL
April 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM #58650
SimonParticipantOne thing worth noting is zhang is a real spelling of a real name (I’ve seen people claim otherwise) but that doesn’t tell us if it us hers
I put the korean spelling in google translate and the transliteration put jang and it did the same with other languages of the same name
April 24, 2013 at 6:51 AM #58651
emilParticipantUnderstand the orient. We have different languages that bear no resemblance to English or other European languages. We have names that are spelt in our languages. When these names are written in English, there are a variety of ways you can spell them to sound similar to the original language. There is thus flexibility in spelling. Normally, in India, such flexibility is exercised early in life, perhaps when a child starts going to school. Once that spelling is established, it is more or less life-long.
While it may not technically be wrong to spell her name with a Z, it is the idea behind it that must be examined. If she was called Chang or Chung or Xhang earlier and later started using the "Z", we can only speculate why. A and Z sounds great for the English speaking people of the world who have the money which I want to grab.
April 24, 2013 at 8:03 AM #58652
SimonParticipantBut that just raises the question of who spelled it what way when and can we even know?
April 24, 2013 at 9:03 AM #58653
emilParticipantIf anyone has a Korean friend or acquaintance outside the wmscog, it could be a source for clarification. I did visit Samsung in Seoul once but that was about 17 years ago for a business visit. Haven't kept in touch with the guys I met there after our mutual business interest ended a couple of years later.
April 24, 2013 at 2:55 PM #58654
KFParticipantDisturbed wrote:
I have seen a few posts with people saying Zhang's name is actually Chang. Anyone care to reveal how they verified this information? I'm not doubting, I just need to confirm with my own eyes.
I remember the first time seeing her name in print in the church. I was amazed. ASH and Zhang..the Alpha & Omega, beginning and the end. I thought, 'truly this is our god'. More evidence of a big fat lie!
What if Ahn's name would have started with a J…..Jehovah….Jesus….J……..that's exactly what they wanted you to think, and I bet you were not aware of it until someone pointed it out to you.
April 24, 2013 at 4:19 PM #58655
DisturbedParticipant@Kim…you know someone pointed it out. Her picture is everywhere but her name is almost a secret. I never thought about it until I left but there is only one picture of ASH where I was..which is strange if he’s supposed to be Heavenly Father.
April 24, 2013 at 4:21 PM #58656
DisturbedParticipantThat should be a clue to everyone that the church worships a false, unknown god. I wish I had noticed that much sooner. I could have saved myself some heartache.
April 24, 2013 at 4:54 PM #58657
SimonParticipantDisturbed wrote:
@Kim…you know someone pointed it out. Her picture is everywhere but her name is almost a secret. I never thought about it until I left but there is only one picture of ASH where I was..which is strange if he's supposed to be Heavenly Father.
Isaiah says your eyes will see Jerusalem not your eyes will see Ahn… and surely it can't have anything to do with physical mount Zion being in Jerusalem such common sense thinking is just wrong!
April 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM #58658
SimonParticipantKim wrote:
Disturbed wrote:
I have seen a few posts with people saying Zhang's name is actually Chang. Anyone care to reveal how they verified this information? I'm not doubting, I just need to confirm with my own eyes.
I remember the first time seeing her name in print in the church. I was amazed. ASH and Zhang..the Alpha & Omega, beginning and the end. I thought, 'truly this is our god'. More evidence of a big fat lie!
What if Ahn's name would have started with a J…..Jehovah….Jesus….J……..that's exactly what they wanted you to think, and I bet you were not aware of it until someone pointed it out to you.
But Jerusalem is the focus she is J ๐ (I thought of something cornier but it would be a lot scarey if they got the idea to use it from seeing my post so I don't wanna say it)
April 24, 2013 at 5:31 PM #58659
KFParticipantBut Jerusalem is the focus she is J ๐ (I thought of something cornier but it would be a lot scarey if they got the idea to use it from seeing my post so I don't wanna say it)
Lol! Simon PM me that answer!!
@Disturbed, yes i hear there is only 2 pics one with him and zhang photoshop and 1 of him with the glasses the rest of the pictures are from the NCPCOG.April 24, 2013 at 10:02 PM #58660
DisturbedParticipantI wish ncpcog would sue wmscog for copyright infringement for the books and unauthorized use of their photos of ASH.
April 24, 2013 at 11:14 PM #58661
SimonParticipantmaybe they can't
April 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM #58662
StainedParticipantDisturbed wrote:
@Kim…you know someone pointed it out. Her picture is everywhere but her name is almost a secret. I never thought about it until I left but there is only one picture of ASH where I was..which is strange if he's supposed to be Heavenly Father.
There's a couple of ones where they keep them in the back Broom Closet or the "pastors" Office. In the pic he's got slicked back hair and Birth Control Glasses on. That's the picture the wannabe's (deacons and missionaries) model themselves after. Once they get the look down, if they haven't already, they begin using the word actually every other word and stuttering / pausing as if they're having trouble with English.
April 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM #58663
HarryParticipantBirth Control Glasses????
Stained, you have such a way with words
April 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM #58664
DisturbedParticipantLOL @Stained! You are so right. I think they're allowed to have the "look" once they're on the church payroll. The gain the right to look like clones and say, "Father said" as if they spoke directly to ASH
April 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM #58665April 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM #58666
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