[Joshua]

There’s a lot of pressure placed on members of the WMSCOG to recognize the supposed new name of Christ. If their god the mother is so important why don’t they recognize her name? By the way, she’s been called by a couple different names over the years. Which ones the real one?

[Simon]

[Simon]

Care to explain the meaning of the verse yourself so far as you understand it ?

So far as not recognizing her name we do

As far as a couple names do you have any source for such a claim

[Joshua]

What verse are you referring to? I know of two names Zahng and Chang. Do some research and find out for yourself.

[Simon]

has SHE ever used chang as the transliteration? and is chang a different name or different transliteration?

 

and obviously I mean the verse about the new name Revelation 3:12

[Joshua]

I’m not going to spoon feed you this. Do some research this time. Read the scriptures around Rev. 3:12 and it clearly reveals itself.

[Simon]

The burden is on you as the one making the claim

[Joshua]

The burden is on the false teaching. Prove that it’s the truth. Once again, the truth can stand on its own and you are unwilling to seek the truth. I told you this thought stopping junk is not going to work on me. Stop defending the lies. It’s not my truth it’s Gods truth. Everytime you argue it you’re arguing with God. Not smart at all.

[Simon]

nope the burden is on you as the one making a claim

[Joshua]

I know you are but what am I? Why do you want to have this kind of conversation? Are you incapable of reading the surrounding verses and discerning the truth for yourself? Your life really does depend on it. Are you just that disillusioned that you don’t know what’s right anymore? Everytime someone bring you the truth you argue about it. You go find the truth! If this happens then you won’t be able to say things like, “How can I trust you? and It’s not the truth just because you say it is!” You have so many of these lines it’s pathetic. Stop giving us lines and start seeking the truth. Do your own research, seek God, and find the truth. I know all of this information you have received here has got to have you very confused. Stop attacking the people who are here to help you. Start here and now simply by reading this small part of the Bible for yourself. It will tell you that Jesus has the stone with the new name on it. He presents it to those who overcome. It’s not his new name. Read it for yourself! Find the truth! If you still argue about it just know it’s Gods Word you are arguing about. I’m not willing to play games with God or his word. I’m certainly not going to tell him he’s wrong. Not smart!

[Simon]

You are the only one who has made a single attack since I have posted here.

 

by the way Revelation 3:12 makes no mention of a stone.

[Joshua]

He’s still writing on them a new name. Who? Those that overcome. It’s not Jesus new name. Nice comeback though. I stand corrected. This is not the place where it talks about the stone with a new name. This scripture still proves the point though. I am man enough to admit when I’m wrong. Can you see the truth yet?

[Rahab]

Revelation 1:13 …"I saw one like the Son of Man….

Revelation 1:17-18 …"Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living one.  I was dead, and see, I am alive forever and ever; and I have the keys of Death and of Hades."

This is who is speaking to John in Revelation 3:12  "If you conquer, I will make you a pillar in the temple of My God; you will never go out of it.  I will write on you the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem that comes down from My God, out of heaven, and My own new name."

All will be revealed and the whole world will know whenever the Lord comes again.  But only God knows the hour of the Lord's second coming….

[Simon]

The pronomial adjective belonging to the new name is "my" meaning the new name belongs to the speaker, even if it isn't Ahn Sahng-Hong.

[Joshua]

See, this was much easier than you made it out to be. Why couldn’t you just come out with this to start with. Now we can have a conversation worthy of having. It may just be me but I think this is much better. I will be home soon and I will be able to give some time and thought to this. This could become a very good conversation.

[Joshua]

As I read Rev. 3 I see that this message is being brought by an angel. The angel is told to write: These are the words of Him With this in mind what are your thoughts? There’s a lot more written here worthy of looking at as well. Just with what I’m seeing here the new name could be “Christian”. Just an idea worth thinking about. I would also encourage you to read my post about Jesus last Passover. It’s amazing what actually took place.

[Simon]

Joshua wrote:

As I read Rev. 3 I see that this message is being brought by an angel. The angel is told to write: These are the words of Him With this in mind what are your thoughts? There's a lot more written here worthy of looking at as well. Just with what I'm seeing here the new name could be "Christian". Just an idea worth thinking about. I would also encourage you to read my post about Jesus last Passover. It's amazing what actually took place.

It looks like it is given by Jesus to John to give to the angel (Jesus telling John to write what he sees at the end of chapter one then in the seven letters saying "write unto the angel of the church in _____"

loocpoc wrote:

But the term "Son Of Man" is orginally a  Babylonain term that meant all of humanity. Not just one person. We're all sons of man… Are we not?

Yes we are all a son of man God called Ezekiel and Daniel son of man in the Tanakh as I remember.

[Joshua]

The white stone with the new name is in Rev 2:14-17. In Rev. The messenger is an angel.

[Simon]

I do not see where you can get that conclusion from when it is Jesus telling John to "write unto the angel…" 

[Joshua]

Go ahead and read it again and you might be able to see where I get it from.

[genny]

I'm having trouble following this conversation, sorry.  I'm confused–what is the question or topic being discussed here?

[Simon]

Revelation 3:11-13 and Revelation2:17 who is speaking and the meaning of the New name (as far I am figuring it out)