"you are all so weak in faith"

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  • #7140
    admin
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    This comment was originally posted on "Is the World Mission Society Church of God a Cult – Part 1 Hassan" on 2/17/13.

    anonimous says:

     

    This is so ridiculus!!!!!! The B.I.T.E model is more influencial then the Holy Bible?

    you are all so week in faith no bases to support your slandering. If you deny the bible 

    Then you deny god. But hey look at it from the bright side when Jesus came 2000 years 

    Ago only a hand full where saved. That's why in the last days he will punish does who do not know God 

    And don't obey the gospel of chist. Will leave you with a few words of wisdom .

    Gal. 4:26

    Rev. 22:17

    Prey to god all mighty to allow you to see the truth dont deny Sabbath or the feast of god.

  • #53911

    emil
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    Sarah2013 wrote:

    Emil, we won't know all things prior to Jesus' return, but we will know enough to get us to where we are going. The book of Revelation is slowly unfolding. Some of the things in Revelation will start to make sense and add up. We just need to be watchful, prayerful, and most of all, live in that Bible daily. God will grant you the Wisdom.

    Sadly the book of Revelation is probably the most misused in the whole of the bible. Anyone can make fantastic claims and say it is prophesied in Rev.

    I personally do not believe that the first 4 chapters of Rev are prophecy (as in telling the future) but a set of instructions to contemporaries.

    I agree we don't know much for sure. In fact, I am not sure if we will know, or even need to know the full details when the last days are upon us.

    So I find it better to base my life on the teachings that are clear and explicit (the Gospels and epistles) and trust that the true meaning of Rev is in line with those.

    #53912

    Sarah2013
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    I feel your point, dear.

    #53913

    Joshua
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    Personally I like Romans. Many things are addressed and several things are put to rest.

    #53914

    emil
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    Ever since a wmscog member tried to use Gal 4:26, 28 etc. to convince me about mother god, I started to love Galatians too.

    But the best logical arguments are in Hebrews.

    #53915

    KC
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    false witness? me? about what? WMSCOG slandering other religions? and saying they will all condemned to hell? and they enjoyed the thought of that?

    if anybody think thats not how wmscog is….. YOU simon, either you dont really know about them, STILL with them or you just need to pay more attention to how wmscog people act and talks among themselves. 

    #53916

    KC
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    please do ask ANY former members from ALL around the planet if you dont believe me. 

    #53917

    KC
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    and for somebody who supposedly seems to always tried to sound smart, you are really not exactly aware about something called "figure of speech" dont you? … OFCOURSE they will NOT say it directly that they will giggle and jumps in joy watching others burn in hell, the same as they will also NOT say it directly that they only there for your cash.

    #53918

    Liberty
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    emil wrote:

    Sarah2013 wrote:

    Honestly, I don't know anything on that. All I remember is that the woman who sits on many waters with the golden wine cup symbolises the Catholic Church according to their own teaching. Revelation 17.

    Yeah that is an interesting interpretation which I have challenged my friend about but there is no logical response. I believe this is a SDA teaching which the wmscog has copy/pasted.

    At various times the wmscog claims the dragon is the catholic church/pope, the beast is the catholic church/pope and the whore also is. The interesting thing is that Rev 17:16 says the beast will destroy the whore. I asked her to explain that and she ignored my question as you would expect.

    She shouldn't have ignored your question. But I think I can offer a slight explaination to that.

    I remember hearing in a sermon that the Beast actually represents the U.S.  This is not something that is taught originally in the Daniel/Revelations study. It is something that they tell you later when you are more mature in your faith. I forget which chapter in Revelations that it is (I need to look later).  But there is a passage about beast coming out of the water and devoring something. This was supposed to represent the U.S. The pastor went on to explain that because the earliest settlers/pilgrims had built their foundation on religion, that's why the U.S was blessed to become the most prosperous country. I believe later in the passage, soemthing overtakes the beast- which is supposed to represent the U.S. losing its prominence because it gave the Catholic Church too much power. Pastor also mentioned something about Italy getting weaker and weaker over the years. I don't remember the full details- but it went something like that. Maybe someone else can elaborate more, if they were taught this teaching.

    All the stuff in the news about child molestation in the Catholic Church is supposed to be the very beginning of the Fall of Great Babylon.

    #53919

    Simon
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    you do make false witness a lot and tu quoque doesn’t exonerate you

    #53920

    KC
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    simon i do think the only one that bear falsehood here is YOU

    you sure here not for the sake of creating awareness of the wms and i do think the only reason you are here and the only thing you do here is creating  confusion about what wms is and maybe to discourage people when they are opening up about the wms.

    you tends top claim that you dont know and disapprove stuff that most members from asia to africa experienced and knows about, remember… You used to really sure about wms NEVER say anything about 2012 doomsday and you were also opposed the idea that wms is just using and milking their members dry, until those two ex deacons testified….. ofcourse.

    but whatever your reason is…. do please stop trying to decieve ppl by creating an illusion that the wms is not as bad as it is…. because they are as bad as it is.

    PS.

    you guys might wanna consider a new line when trying to discredits somebody, that "FALSE WITNESS!" howling is sooo yesterday.

    #53921

    Sarah2013
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    KC, I see where you are coming from. We need to pick one side of the fence and stick to it, this way we are not confusing both ex and members. Even if we agree with a members point, do so with clarity of where you still stand over all. It is very important we know mentally who we are debating so the response can the annotated correctly with discretion. This site is about examining the wmscog obviously by people in doubt of them and not confused about it. No offence, we just need to be a bit more clear where we sincerely stand without bashing the opponent.

    #53922

    Simon
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    again you bear false witness about me.

    #53923

    Stained
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    KC wrote:

    simon i do think the only one that bear falsehood here is YOU

    you sure here not for the sake of creating awareness of the wms and i do think the only reason you are here and the only thing you do here is creating  confusion about what wms is and maybe to discourage people when they are opening up about the wms.

    you tends top claim that you dont know and disapprove stuff that most members from asia to africa experienced and knows about, remember… You used to really sure about wms NEVER say anything about 2012 doomsday and you were also opposed the idea that wms is just using and milking their members dry, until those two ex deacons testified….. ofcourse.

    but whatever your reason is…. do please stop trying to decieve ppl by creating an illusion that the wms is not as bad as it is…. because they are as bad as it is.

    PS.

    you guys might wanna consider a new line when trying to discredits somebody, that "FALSE WITNESS!" howling is sooo yesterday.

     KC-I can't stand the snivelling little prick and everything you said here about him is absolutely 100% accurate. .

    #53924

    genny
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    Just have to say, I support Simon.  I saw his journey out of the wmscog here, and I think he does a good job of bringing balance to the forum.


    @Stained
    –I understand that you have gone through major hurt, but calling people names and swearing (in other posts) is not helpful at all.  It can make people not want to listen to anything you say.  Remember that saying of catching more flies with honey than vinegar…

    #53925

    Love'n Honey
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    with flies come maggots, i always say.

    #53926

    Simon
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    never heard that one before

    #53927

    Stained
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    genny wrote:

    Just have to say, I support Simon.  I saw his journey out of the wmscog here, and I think he does a good job of bringing balance to the forum.


    @Stained
    –I understand that you have gone through major hurt, but calling people names and swearing (in other posts) is not helpful at all.  It can make people not want to listen to anything you say.  Remember that saying of catching more flies with honey than vinegar…

    I understand that Genny.  I'm not the most prim and proper person cause I'm real emotional, especially these days but the guy makes snotty comments on the tail end of all my comments that have nothing to do with him.  I let it go let it go let it go but he persists.  You can skim back and see exactly what I'm talking about.  I don't want anything to do with him, I don't even say anything to him but like I said, he comes with the snotty ass comments on the tail of my insightful glistening with knowledge brilliantly witty insights .  I gotta say, I think KC would agree.  I apologise to you Genny. You are a true warrior, I have read you stuff, spot on greatness.  I'll try to tone it down out of respect to you.  Peace…   

    #53928

    Stained
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    KC wrote:

    false witness? me? about what? WMSCOG slandering other religions? and saying they will all condemned to hell? and they enjoyed the thought of that?

    if anybody think thats not how wmscog is….. YOU simon, either you dont really know about them, STILL with them or you just need to pay more attention to how wmscog people act and talks among themselves. 

     

    AMEN Brother !  If you were here you would have just won one of my Blue Bottle Bud Light Platinum's.

    #53929

    Simon
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    encouraging and making false witness of me yet saying you don’t want anything to do with me how very contradictory.

    and again I don’t sit and watch bullies from the sidelines no-one should.

    #53930

    Stained
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    Simon wrote:

    encouraging and making false witness of me yet saying you don't want anything to do with me how very contradictory.

    and again I don't sit and watch bullies from the sidelines no-one should.

     You just don't get it do you ?

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