[KF]

Hi people I'm just wondering since there is a Father & Mother in heaven, and since Satan is the Father of  Lies…..Is there a Mother of  Lies too? because just as F&M have their children so does the devil, so who is their mother? (WMS says that we can not call someone father unless there is a mother and children)

 

 John 8:44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies

[emil]

[emil]

Great point Kim, and totally valid IMHO.

[Cephas' Brother]

I’m calling their shot right now. I’d bet my paycheck that they’ll try to sell you on some verse about the “whore of Babylon.”

[Simon]

except they teach father and mother as literal with God and not literal with Satan

[Cephas' Brother]

So, other than the fact that they need it to be that way, why is one literal and not the other?

[Simon]

actually that is a pretty reasonable interpretation

[Cephas' Brother]

🙂 I’m a pretty reasonable guy.

[Simon]

God is our creator and life giver ergo parent God has male titles for whatever reason so father is what we use

Satan is neither creator nor.life giver but many will honour him in the way we are too honour obey do the well ofour parents.

[Love'n Honey]

I’ll all my classmate tomorrow. =)

[KF]

renita.payno wrote:

I'll all my classmate tomorrow. =)

 Did you get a chance to ask them

[Love'n Honey]

Kim, I just got to class…. literally. =) I will. Trust me, I’m anxious. But I did text a sister who goes to bakersfield zion. She told me to ask my missionary here in santee. An obvious redirect. But, I hope she still asked her group leader about it.

[Elievalkyrie]

I am soooo envious of people who have already infiltrated zions. The zion here in my city is not contacting me yet. 

[KF]

Elievalkyrie wrote:

I am soooo envious of people who have already infiltrated zions. The zion here in my city is not contacting me yet. 

 Eli, you don't have to wait, they go outside preaching on sabbath after service, looking for the lost children, just walk around their church at the appointed time, lol

[Elievalkyrie]

I don't even know where their church is located yet (i was baptized by a different zion in a different city). lol. they are a secretive lot. Maybe I need to do some scouting myself. 

[KF]

true, their locations are always on the low… hidden…..not like your regular church you can spot a mile away. My friend tells me they go preaching at college campus or the malls anywhere where there is alot of people, so perhaps you should hit the mall or shopping streets one saturday and for sure you are bond to bump into one of them. HAPPY SHOPPING LOL

[Love'n Honey]

Just ask the other church for the address. Tell them you need to study more and you need to keep the sabbath.

I just finished talking to the brother about the mother of lies. It was a very short conversation. He said, “hmm.. well… hmm.. I’ve never heard of anything like that. Maybe brother **** knows.” The other brother is the one who laughed at my question about jesus’ “face”.

[Elievalkyrie]

LOL. I think I'll do that. Thanks! Wish me luck! *chuckle. I might seem pretty laid back about this but it's making me nervous too. Who knows what they'll do to me when they find out my true agenda. Should I bring pepperspray? lol.

[Love'n Honey]

Lol, just bring a smile and be eager but not too eager. I think I’ll start going to zion again just to get some more studies. But brother **** is probably going to have some studies with me soon.

[KF]

renita.payno wrote:

Just ask the other church for the address. Tell them you need to study more and you need to keep the sabbath.

I just finished talking to the brother about the mother of lies. It was a very short conversation. He said, "hmm.. well… hmm.. I've never heard of anything like that. Maybe brother **** knows." The other brother is the one who laughed at my question about jesus' "face".

 hi, did you get to speak to the other brother, or did the sister get back to you with something?

[Love'n Honey]

I explained the conversation with the 2 brothers. Everyone, including the sister said they never heard about a mother of lies.

[Love'n Honey]

Oh.. my conversation with brother **** didn’t post. He said he never heard of it and redirected the conversation to why I haven’t been to zion. Maybe I posted it in a different forum….