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hi all I was just wondering again, why the word HALLELUJAH is only found in Revelation/ Psalms I looked up the meaning and it says that HALLELUJAH means praise JEHOVAH or praise YAH http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallelujah so why would the last book of the bible praise Jehovah if we no longer use the name JEHOVAH, because according to the WMS, we are in the age of the Holy Spirit and the age of the Father ended when the age of the son arrived and so they claim that the new name to be save in this age is Ahnsanghong, but the bible says other wise, see for yourself. Thank You very much! P.S. I have never heared of the WMS(my friend) use the world Hallelujah, but I have heared other churches use it.
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Revelation 19:1
[ Threefold Hallelujah Over Babylon’s Fall ] After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting: “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,
Revelation 19:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 19 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
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Revelation 19:3
And again they shouted: “Hallelujah! The smoke from her goes up for ever and ever.”
Revelation 19:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 19 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
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Revelation 19:4
The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried: “Amen, Hallelujah!”
Revelation 19:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 19 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
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Revelation 19:6
Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting: “Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns.
Revelation 19:5-7 (in Context) Revelation 19 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
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Revelation 19:1
Miriam wasn’t a disciple
Hal wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
Where is it copied from?
Specifically it is copied from Daniel and Jeremiah.
In Christianity, events in the Old Testament are often seen as pre-figurements of things to come. We call this typology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typology_%28theology%29
In your specific example of Revelation, a dream recorded by John, I don't see anything wrong with him having a dream that mirrors the OT. This is in line with many other events in the NT which Christians view as having been foreshadowed in the Old.
Hal wrote:
Then why not add the Book of Judas, Miriam and Thomas to the NT? Why limit yourselves if you beleive all the disciples were apart of this great thing? Heck there is even talk of adding Macabees 1 and 2 to the Ketuvim. Iam sure your bibles would then have to be updated if we were to add them to the Tanakh.
I'm RC, and we've got'em both in our Canon! 😀
If you go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon#Canons_of_various_Christian_traditions
And scroll down, there are two great tables showing the different books in the accepted Canons of each religion. Obviously, each denomination has their own grave reasons for including/excluding the books that they do.
Speaking of books of the bible, my wmscog friend uses a Catholic bible which has 73 books. They even use quotes from some of the 7 books. Yet the wmscog have a sermon about the Word of God being 66 books.
The seven books are hellenistic texts rejected by a majority of denominations as well as Judaism. Some even contradict other scripture.
Simon wrote:
The seven books are hellenistic texts rejected by a majority of denominations as well as Judaism. Some even contradict other scripture.
You missed my point entirely. Your point can be argued but my post is not a debate on the inclusion or non-inclusion of the 7 books. My friend quotes verses from Wisdom to prove mother but their church says the bible has 66 books and you cannot add or remove from scripture.
oh I thought you were saying something else my bad.
I was told that disciples are apostles and apostles are disciples.
renita.payno wrote:
I was told that disciples are apostles and apostles are disciples.
Well that's not true.
Luke 6:17Jesus came down with them and stood on a level place; and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon,
Luke 10:1 Now after this the Lord appointed seventy others, and sent them in pairs ahead of Him to every city and place where He Himself was going to come.
John 4:1 – Therefore when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John
Not all the disciples stayed with Jesus. At the end, there were only twelve. This was described to me before the wmscog.
Oh well..
renita.payno wrote:
I was told that disciples are apostles and apostles are disciples.
Apostle is a more specific word than disciple. Jesus had many disciples (mathetes — learner, disciple, pupil) but 12 apostles (apostolos — apostle, messenger, envoy, delegate). All apostles were disciples, but not all disciples were apostles.
The 12 apostles were mentioned specifically in Matthew 10:2. That's well before the end. So if someone had taught that the apostles were the 12 left over when all the other disciples abandonded Jesus, then they would have been mistaken.
NWT? at WMSCOG? when I was there I woulda used it when preaching but we only ever had NIV KJV and NKJV we might have has one NLT
KF wrote:
Is this for real, my friend uses NIV, and some have the NLT, but I have never heared of them using a Catholic bible, that does not make sense, I'm not saying your lying but everything they teach on how the Catholic Church is wrong and the Pope is Satan and they use their Bible???
Is your friend a team leader? just wondering, and can you tell us how they use the C. bible to prove mother, I find that very interesting please show us, thanks!
My friend uses the Good News bible. Specifically she has used verses from the book of Wisdom. In the book of Wisdom, wisdom is often referred to metaphorically as a female person rather than as an attribute. She takes it literally keeps saying that this proves mother god.
One example is where Solomon expresses the desire that he wants Wisdom to sit on a throne beside him.
weird
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