wms's entire doctrine is based on the Hebrew word eth: an untranslatable mark of the accusative

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    anon7
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    Strong’s 853 Hebrew “eth”

    Eth: untranslatable mark of the accusative case

    Wmscog uses this word to say “look, there’s 2 Gods, a male and a female.”

    This is eth from Genesis 1:27

    “In the image of God He created them.” The word “them” is “eth” in Hebrew.

    Please read what eth means in Hebrew.

  • #72747

    anon7
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    Wms uses this word to say “look, Adam and Eve were both created in God’s image.” It just as easily means only Adam was created in God’s image (AS THE NEW TESTAMENT SAYS: ADAM WAS THE IMAGE OF GOD. EVE WAS THE IMAGE OF ADAM!)

    #72748

    anon7
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    Regardless, an “untranslatable” mark in Hebrew is not a basis for an entire doctrine.

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    Note: i threw out alternate theories about Genesis 1:27 on another post. (Theories contradicting/ saying totally different things. This goes to show 10 theories could be made up per verse potentially.

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    However, pointing to Genesis 1:27 in an English Bible, and telling people “look, it says ‘in the image of God God created them. Them is plural, so both Adam and Eve were made in God’s image.” That kind of thing is said by someone who not only doesn’t know the Bible, but has no clue about Hebrew. Now even if God didn’t know the Bible, God invented Hebrew. (That was a joke).

    #72749

    anon7
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    Next time someone comes to you saying “look there’s 2 Gods, Jesus who died and His wife who said we’re going to hell if we don’t do

    A b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z etc

    Scribble on a piece of paper, say “that says there’s 30 billion Gods. That’s what i believe.” When they say “huh?” Say that scribble was somewhere in the Bible, and that means there’s 30 billion Gods.”

    That’s what they do!!

    #72750

    anon7
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    Gen 1:27 just as easily means God and Jesus created Adam in their image (the male image). This is actually supported by the new testament that Adam was in God’s image, and Eve was simply in Adam’s image.

    #72751

    anon7
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    I don’t know what the bigger crime is here: wms saying God doesn’t know the Bible or wms saying God doesn’t know language. …

    #72752

    anon7
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    Wms NEVER encourages members to actually study and read Hebrew, do they??? (Or Greek). God is way more merciful, loving etc than “you have to exhaust yourself doing this hundred page list. If you don’t you’ll go to hell, or if you’re lucky, you’ll go to hell and eventually perish.”

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    anon7
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    Gil may believe she is Jesus’ wife. Joo may believe he’s the chosen prophet. They may believe no matter what anyone says. Sahng may have thought he was Jesus (though he never said he was), but it’s highly doubtful…

    However, there’s no proof of anything wms says. Rather there’s proof their doctrine comes straight from satan.

    #72754

    anon7
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    I threw out theories on Genesis 1:27 on a prior post hoping members would see “it doesn’t necessarily mean what wms says, it just as easily means something else.”

    #72755

    anon7
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    Don’t believe in 2 Gods because of untranslatable mark in Hebrew. And don’t just believe someone is God (a god who expects all you time, money etc) without reading it for yourself. And don’t be disappointed that God is more loving and more merciful than you thought He was.

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    anon7
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    Maybe instead of “encouraging” members to preach to the whole world “while there’s still time” they should command them to look at the first page of the Bible…oh, i don’t know, in the original language it was written in! No instead all your time is spent “preparing” for the end of the world. And preparing means what? Reading piles and piles of literature based on the Hebrew word “eth” WHICH ISN’T EVEN A WORD. I’m sorry but a doctrine based on words, or at least one word, can be called a doctrine. A doctrine based on a single mark in Hebrew, WHICH ISN’T EVEN A WORD, that’s not just non sense, THAT’S A CRIME.

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    anon7
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    Showing people scribble (people who don’t speak the language) and saying “this says give all your time, energy, and money to these people. God said it does.” I don’t think the common members knew (maybe no regular members in the church read Hebrew actually). By “god” saying “do these 10 thousand things” but studying Greek and Hebrew is not on the list… By default that kind of says it’s a waste of time…

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    anon7
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    *pointing to scribble and saying “this means there’s 2 Gods.” That’s the crime I’m referring to in the preaching. If you want to say “all of us are in God’s image, including Adam and Eve.” THAT’S FINE. And I’m sure it’s true. But using that scribble mark to say “there’s 2 Gods” and not just that but “The 2 gods said we have to do abc xyz or we can’t go to heaven.” …”eth” is not a word, SO WMSCOG IS NOT A CHURCH!

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    anon7
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    *wms says “in the image of God God created them.” “Because ‘them’ is plural it means both Adam and Eve. Therefore it cannot just be that God and Jesus created Adam in their image. It must mean there’s a female god in korea, whose image Eve came from.” …”eth” is not a word, and neither is what WMS says, IT’S BABBLE! Babylon babbles, babble means not using words. At least I’m using words. Lol.

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    anon7
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    So wmscog=Babylon, satan’s church in revelation. The other churches have doctrine based on words. (Wms does not).

    #72761

    anon7
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    Wms don’t say “clearly blah blah blah anything.” “Clearly it meant both male and female at the end of the verse.” NO CLEARLY YOUR “god” NEEDS TO LEARN TO READ, OR AT LEAST NOT TELL THE MEMBERS THEY’RE GOING TO HELL IF THEY READ!

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    The original Hebrew (and Aramaic) manuscripts were written without vowels and without punctuation. So don’t claim there’s 2 Gods based on a semicolon in your English or Korean Bible. “It’s not there.” And Gil being God is also her imagination/Sahng’s. It is a dangerous doctrine destroying the world. No matter how many pieces of trash wms picks up, they are destroying people’s faith in the one True God. (Not to mention wms members have no time to even sit down and study, do they? Obviously NOT).

    #72762

    anon7
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    God and Jesus created ADAM in their image (the male image). Listen to words wms, not a mark in Hebrew. If you see a star (*) on a paper in English, you don’t say “that star means there’s 2 Gods.” Or see the alternate theories i wrote. Either way, DON’T BASE YOUR LIFE ON A MARK!

    #72763

    anon7
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    It often is translated “in the image of God He created him.” As in “him” singular (sometimes as ‘them’ plural). Gen 1:27. But it’s the word “eth” which is not a word and is not even translatable!

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    Wms members hear the same stuff over and over and over and over to the point of… I mean what do you call that, if someone puts you in a room and plays the same tape over and over and over and over (every day and every week the same thing). What’s the word for that? Yes there is a word for it…

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    If wms is NOT saying “in the image of God He created them” then there is absolutely no basis for a 2 God theory. Even if they’re not “saying” “in the image of God He created them IS THE TEXT” VERBATIM, THEY ARE SAYING IT BY INSERTING IT. THEY ARE INSERTING “THEM” referring to the later part “male and female He created THEM.” THEY SAY “it’s the subject” “in the image of God He created “plural.” They say “look it’s a plural image.” “Therefore God is plural.” No where does it indicate a male and female plural there or even a plural right there. Just eth. that’s all it says. They say “in the image of God God created them male and female.” (As one sentence). But in the Hebrew there’s merely a mark, no basis to say “in the image of God God created 2.” They’re saying “eth” a mere mark in Hebrew means ‘2’. They’re saying it by inserting it.

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    They’re not pointing at the word “eth” and saying “that’s the word ‘them'” That’s not what I’m saying because in some Bibles they use it says “him.” They’re inserting it where there’s only a mark “eth.” This is long, but see that they inserted it. Hebrew doesn’t support that. There’s only a mark, nothing supporting “in the image of God He created them.” But every time they say it they say “they male and female were both were created in God’s image.” They say “in the image of God God created them.” That’s not what the sentence says. There’s no indicator of this. Every time they say it they insert “them,” when it doesn’t say that in Hebrew, it merely says “eth.”

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    This was kind of a “catch 22.” Now they are forced to say “we’re not saying that’s what the text says. ” Lol…ok then… If it’s not what the text says, then what’s the basis for it? “We’re not saying it says that in Hebrew.” Ok if it doesn’t say that in Hebrew, then what language does it say it in? Because it’s written in Hebrew… “We are not saying it says “them” plural. We are inserting it.” Yes, just like they insert that the one prophesied to come when Israel was restored was Jesus, just like they say only God can bring the Passover (and in the same breath say “who blocked the Passover? (satan). So only who can unblock the Passover? (Only The one who blocked it).” In their OWN sermon (book 1 chapter 3 of the 50 sermons based on the “word” eth) they say satan can bring the Passover…

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    *you can say “both Adam and Eve and everyone else is in God’s image” meaning male and female are the same, not unequal, but having the same value because all have a spirit as God has a spirit. Etc. That’s positive. But saying the females have an image from a female God, equal with God, coeternal with God…all based on something that isn’t there in Hebrew but is inserted…(and that God is going to burn me and everyone else that can’t see what this mark eth means (oh wait no one knows what it means, not even the Hebrew speakers, so i guess we’re all going to burn). NO. That’s not true. I’m saying you’re being told you’ll burn if you don’t see something that. Is. Not. There.

    #72764

    MountainMom
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    Anon, what the heck are you doing up at 4 in the morning writing reams of material on this site?  Lol!  It worries me.

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    anon7
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    It’s labor day weekend. I didn’t have to be anywhere. Usually i go to bed around 3 and wake up around 8 hours later. And lol, yeah i kinda went off lolol…i thought it was funny… I’m worried that “there’s no telling what Gil and Joo will say / tell the members to do once they start to lose masses and masses of members.” Joo put out like 50 sermons based on nothing. I accidentally wrote like 50 pages the last couple weeks lol… But I’m scared the members won’t leave without “an alternative” to “oh look, this verse says Jesus appears right after ww2.” Look “this verse says Jesus is age 30 in 1948.” Look “this verse says Jesus came from the east.” Look “only Jesus can bring the Passover” except there’s no verse for that lol… Members are told this, these same verses, i mean insertions/assertions/part of Gen 1:27 etc etc etc, over and over and over and over like how many times a week or month? I wanted to give an explanation for THEIR MAIN VERSES. That took like 50 pages. (And i was trying to say all i was going to say by Sept 7th this month…). Some people write a book on wms… I’m just posting where it’s free, accessible, and where the members who do leave will see it (even if they just see it after they leave). You won’t hear from me barely after Sept 7th/8th this week.

    #72766

    anon7
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    Well i spent how much time preaching wms nonsense to the world and “practice preaching” the same exact insertions over and over? I feel very very bad to the world. I’m VERY sorry to anyone i preached wms nonsense to. Please forgive me personally. And ‘world’ please forgive me for wasting time in wms when i could have tried to do more to help ‘you.’ i feel very sorry to the world… (So i put my time towards trying to get the members out/stop wms from getting new “converts.”

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