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actually he only has to prove it or.fail to
[removed for rules] reasonable doubt on every charge is needed for him to lose the case but you cannot be compelled to incriminate yourself
loocpoc wrote:
Emily wrote:
shimon wrote:
reading the document it is a bit weird if it is true that she posts under a psuedonym. Not that it would validate anything but it would still be weird…
Why do you think it's weird? Is "Shimon" a pseudonym or your real name?
Shimon means Simon in hebrew. He has stated he was born Jewish. Even if the person posts under an alias, it is legal.
I wasn't denying legallity I just think Aliases are generally suspicious.
loocpoc wrote:
shimon wrote:
actually he only has to prove it or.fail to
if.big shine.is tax fraud can still not get caught reasonable doubt on every charge is needed for him to lose the case but you cannot be compelled to incriminate yourself
If the owner of this website or the other person actually prove the connection, then whomever takes the stand for the church could go to jail. If the person mentions any 5th amendment any decent judge should throw out the case since it is the plaintiff who made mention of it in the filing.
I did not think of that part.
loocpoc wrote:
Emily wrote:
shimon wrote:
reading the document it is a bit weird if it is true that she posts under a psuedonym. Not that it would validate anything but it would still be weird…
Why do you think it's weird? Is "Shimon" a pseudonym or your real name?
Shimon means Simon in hebrew. He has stated he was born Jewish. Even if the person posts under an alias, it is legal.
I wasn't denying legallity I just think Aliases are generally suspicious.
loocpoc wrote:
shimon wrote:
actually he only has to prove it or.fail to
if.big shine.is tax fraud can still not get caught reasonable doubt on every charge is needed for him to lose the case but you cannot be compelled to incriminate yourself
If the owner of this website or the other person actually prove the connection, then whomever takes the stand for the church could go to jail. If the person mentions any 5th amendment any decent judge should throw out the case since it is the plaintiff who made mention of it in the filing.
I did not think of that part.
shimon wrote:
actually he only has to prove it or.fail to
if.big shine.is tax fraud can still not get caught reasonable doubt on every charge is needed for him to lose the case but you cannot be compelled to incriminate yourself
HMMM. Is someone accusing Big Shine of tax fraud? I don't think so. It is entirely legal to make millions and millions of dollars selling religion. Moon got caught doing some fancy bookwork, but as far as I know, no one is accusing Big Shine of tax fraud. It is entirely legal for a company to make money providing services to a religious organization …. happens every day! As long as IRS and state agency rules are followed and reporting requirements are met … no problem making money working for religious institutions!
shimon wrote:
actually he only has to prove it or.fail to
if.big shine.is tax fraud can still not get caught reasonable doubt on every charge is needed for him to lose the case but you cannot be compelled to incriminate yourself
HMMM. Is someone accusing Big Shine of tax fraud? I don't think so. It is entirely legal to make millions and millions of dollars selling religion. Moon got caught doing some fancy bookwork, but as far as I know, no one is accusing Big Shine of tax fraud. It is entirely legal for a company to make money providing services to a religious organization …. happens every day! As long as IRS and state agency rules are followed and reporting requirements are met … no problem making money working for religious institutions!
WMC is [removed for rules]
WMC is [removed for rules]
Is WMC the church? They don't have to pay any taxes because as a religious organization they are exempt, just like Joel Osteen, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Jones …. they don't have to pay tax on their income as a religious institution. Ministers and others who WORK for the church pay and report tax just like anyone who earns an income …
Is WMC the church? They don't have to pay any taxes because as a religious organization they are exempt, just like Joel Osteen, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Jones …. they don't have to pay tax on their income as a religious institution. Ministers and others who WORK for the church pay and report tax just like anyone who earns an income …
shimon wrote:
WMC is accusing this site of accusing them of tax fraud
Have you looked at the tax forms on the site Shimon? What are your thoughts? I know that I was a little surprised when I first saw them.
shimon wrote:
WMC is accusing this site of accusing them of tax fraud
Have you looked at the tax forms on the site Shimon? What are your thoughts? I know that I was a little surprised when I first saw them.
Actually it isn't as simple as religious institutions don't need to pay taxes all 501 c (3) can be subject to taxes depending on diffferent financial situations. Also if WMC were just a front for Big Shine or anything any improper connection between the two existed WMC would be culpable in tax evasion for their part.
Actually it isn't as simple as religious institutions don't need to pay taxes all 501 c (3) can be subject to taxes depending on diffferent financial situations. Also if WMC were just a front for Big Shine or anything any improper connection between the two existed WMC would be culpable in tax evasion for their part.
501c 3 and c6 organizations may be subject to tax on unrelated income. WMSCOG's relationship with Big Shine may be beneficial to Big Shine, however, if revenue to Big Shine is properly reported, then there may be no tax issues for WMSCOG. Big Shine reports most likely as a "C" corp but I am not sure. Mr. Moon built up billions in assets through his cult worldwide ….. he got caught with his hands in the cookie jar once and spent time in jail … Lot's of ways to legally build big fortunes with 501c3's ….. and c6's.
Most likely, WMSCOG uses Big Shine as a vendor. As long as what they pay Big Shine is properly reported, WMSCOG will most likely be OK.
501c 3 and c6 organizations may be subject to tax on unrelated income. WMSCOG's relationship with Big Shine may be beneficial to Big Shine, however, if revenue to Big Shine is properly reported, then there may be no tax issues for WMSCOG. Big Shine reports most likely as a "C" corp but I am not sure. Mr. Moon built up billions in assets through his cult worldwide ….. he got caught with his hands in the cookie jar once and spent time in jail … Lot's of ways to legally build big fortunes with 501c3's ….. and c6's.
Most likely, WMSCOG uses Big Shine as a vendor. As long as what they pay Big Shine is properly reported, WMSCOG will most likely be OK.
Defendant Newton's Demurrer has now been posted online:
https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/newton-demurrer-wmscog-vs-colon-newton-va-2011-17163/
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