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If this group was truly Christian then they would follow the Bible when dealing with others that claim to be Christians.
How does the Bible say to deal with false prophets. False prophets or not that is how WMC would be logical to deal with you as that is what they believe or teach they believe this website to be run by.
You test the false prophets using scripture. When they prove themselves to be false prophets by doing things like prophesying the return of Jesus and it not happening, then they are to be dismissed and never listened to.
lol that wasn't what I meant
reading the document it is a bit weird if it is true that she posts under a psuedonym. Not that it would validate anything but it would still be weird…
as far as I can see that is about parody and free speech not libel and slander
freespeach is elsewhere defined exclusive from Libel and slander`
Holding:
Parodies of public figures which could not reasonably be taken as true are protected against civil liability by the First Amendment, even if intended to cause emotional distress. Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed.
Now if it is libel or not would be a completely different topic which is the responsibility of the lawsuit to prove the libel. If it were not permissible even if it were libellous it would be thrown out or an argument that this website could make.
if the statements were untrue it would be libel.
My first reaction on reading the documentation of the lawsuit was just "Phew!" Why would they be doing this? What can possibly be gained and by whom?
Can someone please clarify for me – Does this wmscog have to prove that what they think this website is saying about them is untrue? Does the wmscog have to prove that what they say are the negative outcomes for them, as a result of the acitivity on this site have actually happened? And then demonstrate that these negative outcomes are a direct result of what appears here? Or does this website have to prove that they haven't done what the wmscog is accusing them of? Or maybe both?
I wish I had the funds to make the expertise available to you to contest and defend this suit. Do you have to contest it? What would happen if you did nothing?
In the United States it is always on the one attacking the defendent to prove their case. They have to prove the claims are made (easy enough) AND prove the claims are lies (not so much doable) and they also have to prove damage from the claims (again possible but if the claims are true not relevent)
shimon wrote:
reading the document it is a bit weird if it is true that she posts under a psuedonym. Not that it would validate anything but it would still be weird…
Why do you think it's weird? Is "Shimon" a pseudonym or your real name?
Shimon – If you are right, and the plaintiff(wmscog) has to prove that the claims are not lies (and prove subsequent damage),. then my common sense says this has to be a fantastic lawsuit to defend. Perhaps not such a good one for the wmscog to have brought. I cannot see how 'the truth' will not come to the fore.
Emily wrote:
shimon wrote:
reading the document it is a bit weird if it is true that she posts under a psuedonym. Not that it would validate anything but it would still be weird…
Why do you think it's weird? Is "Shimon" a pseudonym or your real name?
It is my real name
justasitis wrote:
Shimon – If you are right, and the plaintiff(wmscog) has to prove that the claims are not lies (and prove subsequent damage),. then my common sense says this has to be a fantastic lawsuit to defend. Perhaps not such a good one for the wmscog to have brought. I cannot see how 'the truth' will not come to the fore.
I dunno maybe they think they can use brain washing tactics on a jury or a judge? Or maybe they will only attack certain more denfendable claims.
Shimon, who thinks "they can use brain washing tactics on a jury or a judge"?
Emily wrote:
Shimon, who thinks "they can use brain washing tactics on a jury or a judge"?
WMC theoretically.
I'm not saying that any kind of "brain-washing" techniques would be used by wmscog, but wake up people! Anyone is susceptible to manipulation by these methods! Judge, jury, just about anybody. It's why the methods are so effective. We all need to be ever alert and vigilant. Use the God-given reasoning and intellect that is one of the attributes of our species. Please.
Interesting comments by Shimon. I don't know the legal arguments in detail but I can predict confidently that [removed for rules]…..
actually he only has to prove it or.fail to
[removed for rules] reasonable doubt on every charge is needed for him to lose the case but you cannot be compelled to incriminate yourself
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