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come on WMS, just admit it….. You are exposed.
– Admit it, you predicts 2012 doomsday…. everybody who have been in WMS knows you did (althought often denied) and it failed ofcourse.
– Admit it, you sometimes "suggested" to members to get married to somebody then have an abortion, theres some ex members from india here that testify about it and no they dont know Diane who testify about it too.
– Admit it, You have minimal headcounts for recruitment for every members and tithes is center point of it all. (this is actually something thats VERY visible in sions if you pay attention closely)
– Admit it, Wms is not about religions, infact it dont even have original teaching…. its just cut-pasted teaching from many other denominations.
– Admit it, you despise 25th december as xmas YET you celebrate it as the birthdate of Anh, then what the difference??? Anh supposed to be jesus V2, so if 25th december celebration is something that came from the devil….well…. you know who you consider as the devil then.
KC wrote:
come on WMS, just admit it….. You are exposed.
– Admit it, you predicts 2012 doomsday…. everybody who have been in WMS knows you did (althought often denied) and it failed ofcourse.
Don't forget 1988!
– Admit it, You have minimal headcounts for recruitment for every members and tithes is center point of it all. (this is actually something thats VERY visible in sions if you pay attention closely)
Totally I remember I didn't get my ten talents in 2010 (in fact here almost noone did) yet although we couldn't be saved without the ten talents we weren't booted or anything. If these talents were about salvation and not money why was there no negative result for failure?
I would love to see Zahng and Kim publicly come out, say that it's all wrong, ask for forgiveness, accept Jesus Christ for real, and see if they can truly lead their flock into salvation. Boy, what a glorious day that would be. Imagine, with all of the knowledge that members have now coupled with a true understanding. I'll bet this group could do a lot of good like taking on the SDA cult or the Moonies. They know a lot of the teachings and with proper knowledge they would have all of the disputes as well. I'll keep praying for this.
People ruled by greed for money and power seldom lets go of it. But we can hope, miracles do exist afterall.
May God bless your heart, Joshua. Perhaps God may allow that, but they are too greedy and proud to will such. Too far gone like their real father and I don’t mean Ahn or mama Zahng.
lol. I get what you mean Sarah.
I had know doubt you will, Eli.
Simon, I'd like to answer your question on why you weren't booted out for not getting your ten talents. I know they will never boot my relative because he has given them as much as $25,000 in one year in donations, and lives in a tiny one bedroom apartment thinking of more ways to give them more money. He has even shut off his TV cable. They don't seem to worry anymore about him preachiing and getting talents because they will settle for him giving all his money for the rest of his life. He is a cash cow they are simply milking for all he is worth. He stops with the money, THEN he will be booted or rebuked till he gives it again. Simple. It's about the money and the power they wield over him.
Also, they got him to pull his retirement out and give it to them because, after all, he won't be needing it since the end is so near. I can bet they won't be taking care of him when it finally comes to retirement time for him and the end still isn't here.
MountainMom wrote:
Simon, I'd like to answer your question on why you weren't booted out for not getting your ten talents. I know they will never boot my relative because he has given them as much as $25,000 in one year in donations, and lives in a tiny one bedroom apartment thinking of more ways to give them more money. He has even shut off his TV cable. They don't seem to worry anymore about him preachiing and getting talents because they will settle for him giving all his money for the rest of his life. He is a cash cow they are simply milking for all he is worth. He stops with the money, THEN he will be booted or rebuked till he gives it again. Simple. It's about the money and the power they wield over him.
Thats true.
but then just to play devils adovocate:
I cannot speak for others but I have always been fairly poor and had no fruit so I dunno why they wanted me to stay.
Simon says:
I cannot speak for others but I have always been fairly poor and had no fruit so I dunno why they wanted me to stay.
Simon! the devil wants your soul, that's why! either way he wins. If he can't get your money, he'll take an I.O.U. for your soul.
but they have allegedly kicked out members who didn't cointribute tithes or fruits
Simon wrote:
but they have allegedly kicked out members who didn't cointribute tithes or fruits
and the reason most likely they did not contribute in tithes or fruits, is because they did not believe, so when they know a member does not have faith in mother, right away they are bad fruit, and bad fruit can not be next to good fruit, because it can spoil it with it's fungus & bacteria, and so the spoiled fruit needs to be discarded, it's does not make the fruit basket look appealing, cah-PEESH!
If I were a business owner, I would definitely keep the productive workers and fire the not so productive ones who are not following the company procedures. I need my company to grow not go out of business.
WMS realy should admit they are exposed because they are not registered in india, they are registered under the name of elohim bible group?if you need proofs of names who have gone through abortions it will be given that is why the pastors name was given,you did celebrate the birthday on 25december&you people did inform the members to go to youtube and increase the counts or likes for the veideo i have already come if you want your veideos from india also can be shown on the examining, the latest news i have recived that your zion in boisar india is also having a lot of problem the owner has told them to shift ,now also say this is a lie you will see some proof coming up. your missonary did go to the roman catholic association for hlp in rahul rawails post proof was also shown what more do you want now.a letter from catholic association was also posted.
can you explain what it means for a church to be registered in India?
Also, Simon, they might not kick people out right away because they have potential to make money some day or to recruit for them and bring in someone who does have money. If they don't bear fruit, though, and they don't tithe, they won't be in very good standing there for long.
In addition, they like to make it look like they are growing rapidly and they have a lot of people, so a member might fulfill that purpose for them for a while. A lot of the thiings they do are based after "social proofing" which is a marketing technique. If you look that up, you can see what they do that is based on this, and it becomes very obvious.
The wmscog is running their organisation all over india telling members it is a church converting people from diffrent religons to run such an organization you must register your organisation with the goverment athourity even the hindu temples and the RC church are registered but they the wmscog are not but have made a regestraion of a bible group called eloim they used some of their local memmbers who are missionary,decon as chairman etc they show the goverment there is no connection with korea but funds are collected in the name of wmscog, the members dont no about this if they deny this they will have their registratration copy comming up on this site.
interesting regulations
I was baptised 2 months ago and have been studying with a sister. The only money they asked for was for tithes, I have been tithing for about 10 years already. My Dad said that he has never been able to afford to tithe, and he has never been able to afford not to. I agree with that. He always tithed. I started at age 18. It has been a blessing. I was told in RCIA that our Bishop requests that 5% go to the Church, and the other 5% goes to God where we think it is best.
Tithing has helped me to quit worrying about money and to put my trust in God. In Malachi, God says to bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, and He will pour out His blessings. He further asks that we "test Him in this". No where else in the Bible does God ask that we test him.
So I was not suprised when the sister showed me this, because I think it is right to tithe. So I don't understand what you are all talking about. Is it not right to give to God?
When I first started reading the articles on this site it got me curious. But now reading alot of the comments on this forum, I'm starting to doubt the basis for this website. I'm sorry to say, and I apologize if I offend anyone but it sounds as though many here have a grudge.
lovelyK wrote:
I'm sorry to say, and I apologize if I offend anyone but it sounds as though many here have a grudge.
lovelyK you could easily be correct. Sometimes I feel people here are so blinded by their experiences they don't always think rationally, but same with WMSCOG members take things as persecution when it really is not.
That said don't judge the facts by the messenger. If Hitler said the sky is blue would you reject it merely becuse hitler said it? You are always welcome to doubt anything we say do your own research reach your own conclusions
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