wmcog is modern day SLAVERY. God is ANTI-slavery! DON'T LET WMS ABUSE YOU!

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    anon7
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    this was just the most important point of mine (dearest to my heart): that wmscog is modern day SLAVERY. Clarification though, I’m not saying Christians should observe the new moon day; it was abolished in the new testament (as a lot of things were abolished at the cross) and I’m not trying to over emphasize which days of the week people take off work, but emphasize the concept of “RESTING PLENTY,” in the Bible (and introduce taking 2 Sabbaths a week. This is the literal reason i left wms right here-they’re the most works based church on the planet, and the New Testament is simply NOT works or time based-salvation since Christ is simply not works or time based (not as far as the law). There is the concept of “you must try to resemble how Abraham’s personality was (because that’s why he was chosen as the first Patriarch.” But that’s just mentally aiming… There is a verse in James “salvation is by works also, not by faith alone,” but the works James emphasized was like “taking care of the orphan, widow, and the poor and needy.” That’s the context of James, and he literally said “religion without taking care of the orphan and the needy is not religion.” You don’t insert things Paul said to interpret what James said. (The only thing you even have to obey is the 10 commandants-and all 10 are obeyed by things you “don’t” do-there’s no works involved in the 10 commandants; they are obeyed by “not” doing things. they are obeyed by “not killing,” “not committing adultery,” etc. We cannot say someone who attacks someone and kills them was saved prior… Even someone who hates his brother in his heart is said to not be saved yet in first John, then what about a murderer-they were not saved prior, that’s why that sin happened… 1 John refers to “obeying the commandants,” linking it to salvation. The Law of Christ absolutely cannot be said to be more works based than the old covenant. (It took the Jews about 2 hours a day to obey the law), however they never worked during the night, there was no electricity. This was an automatic “4 hours of rest” system (at least) every single day in the Bible/Bible times. They didn’t sleep from sunset to sunrise lol… No one does that. They had time with their spouse, etc. Wms robs you not just of your weekends-but all your free time every day. A church which instituted modern day slavery (a lot of it is cleaning and construction, errands etc…) And wms openly preaches not to take vacations like all ex members have contested to. The Jews traveled away from Jerusalem at times (the Jews couldn’t do the sacrifices away from Jerusalem temple). Yeah they were supposed to be in town for the yearly celebrations (but any other time of year they freely traveled if needed/wanted). People “went on journeys” in the old testament-that’s why God made second Passover, so they could travel in spring if needed (and make it up later). The apostles were clearly traveling during the autumn feasts in acts-so the idea of “not traveling or vacationing is simply not in the New Testament,” hence it’s LESS strict than the old testament. Just as you can eat pretty much anything you want in the New Testament (also, there’s virtually nothing you have to do in the New Testament). It’s entirely geared towards “personality, like kindness, etc,” and totally not geared towards “having to sacrifice for hours out of the day.” We cannot say the New Covenant takes more time than the Old Covenant-and wms requires plural hours out of your day every day (not to mention stealing your weekend), not to mention “it’s never enough anyways.” Also-this wms greatly distorts, using it to make slaves. Factually for 90℅ of the Jews, there was nothing to do every day-only the Levites had to work. (Wms uses the plug-“you work all day Sabbath because you are priests” to use mind control). Even the priests didn’t work all day Sabbath, but only a few hours (and everyone in the world had the nights off because there was no electricity lol). So we cannot say anyone on earth worked day and night or at least the Jews couldn’t have seen what they were doing to sacrifice at night (but wms admits there was no night worship on Saturday or ever lol…). The meaning of “only priests work” was to show “through the perfect High Priest Jesus Christ’s work day in and day out (and by faith in his perfection) we are saved. It was a picture of “Jesus the High Priest is always working and fighting for you,” (as God is “always” at His work for our salvation (and we are saved through the works and constant efforts of Jesus/God, and cannot save ourselves anyways.” This was the point (and also that God’s children are a royal priesthood-NOT SLAVES TO BE MISUSED OR USED). That’s the point. God is working without rest in the spiritual world (however God’s children must be treated as royalty). Though God’s children work to make the world go round-they are not to be treated like slaves, and deserve to be able to rest and enjoy the day (AT LEAST 4 hours a day). I’m sure God has mandated 24 hours out of the day time hours, also insisting “God’s children do NOT have to work Saturdays,” as Saturday is the best day of the week with all the concerts, etc. (That is why musicians/singers are allowed to work Saturdays-they are like priests [the musicians were Levites]). Also singers etc enjoy performing, and it’s not really work to them (the should still get 24 hours off out of the day time hours at least also per week, but at their convenience). Doctors etc can heal Sabbaths-Jesus set that example. Law enforcement have to work every day (as there were always watchman in the old testament). I’m sure there is a second Sabbath every week. (God made 2 off days, because as society advanced, people worked at night, etc-and if you only get one off day a week it’ll turn into catch-up-on-chores-errands day). (There seems to be a Lunar Sabbath since the time of Moses, and a Solar system Sabbath aka Saturday added at the day of the cross). Now what is more important!? The concept is much more important-you should never lose your source of income over this. I simply told my job “I’m taking Tuesdays off in November and Thursdays off in December (and Monday October 31st off),” and i don’t work Saturdays, period. (That’s this year). People should just follow the CONCEPT. “Don’t let the world make you work 6 days a week,” and also “take 2 days off a week so you actually get a real day off weekly.” I’d say more Americans at least follow this than not (but a lot of people are getting bullied by life into having no day off per week, or no real day off per week, though they’re not making money that day anyways). What’s most important is the biblical concept of being treated fairly (even if it’s by life itself). Wms is the opposite of God’s system, eating up most of people’s time-that is why wmscog is literally the Antichrist organization-it’s for that direct reason especially. It’s “anti the pattern of God’s design.” Wmscog is modern day slavery, and as everyone in wms knows “you’re not even allowed to take a vacation ever in wms.” Ok that’s not just slavery, or the definition of slavery (you have to work all year round without a vacation)-that’s worse than slavery. I find it very odd that Gil “god” does not even know it’s a command to physically rest once a week in the day time hours… “4, on it you shall do no work.” Wms rants about the Catholic Church hundreds of years ago deleting the 2nd commandant, but wms deleted half of the 4th commandant. I am not arguing over what day Sabbath is-I’m saying THE CONCEPT is mandatory-you MUST take an actual day off every week, and physically rest (though things like concerts etc are good and to do on a day off). However to really be able to rest and enjoy that day, you need to take 2 days off a week in the 21st century… This is what i feel is the point of the Bible (as the Bible is centered around the 10 commandants). What’s more important is the concept, not the day chosen to rest on (as it’s very hard to control what days you get off in most companies…). Just trust me-take 2 days off (with the day time hours off) and make sure one of them is a literal day off where you get to rest. (If you are like a nurse who works overnight etc [and it’s easier to just sleep in the day time] then reverse it, and take the hours off when you prefer to be awakeIt’s hard to rotate sleeping nights and days for some people (and nurses are saving lives etc). People who just can’t sleep at night may want to flip flop it also (so that they’re awake at the times that match their schedule). I’m saying “do the concept,” and definitely don’t let any church work you every day. Of all places a church should foster rest in people’s lives… The reason most people can’t be kind is because they’re so stressed with barely any time off (even if they do get two days off a week). Trust me or trust the Bible and aim for 12 straight hours doing no work once a week. (The only thing the Bible mentions is praying at 3pm-there’s no mention of having to ever go to a church building in the New Testament). The sole thing is gathering with at least one person around 9am Pentecost. It doesn’t say you have to go to a church building, but just that you should pray together, not alone that day. That’s just prayer, and it’s only yearly. Eating bread and wine takes 1 minute (not 3 hours like wms does it). That’s it, besides reading the Bible once a week (Jesus did it on Sabbath, and was like a paragraph lol). A mandatory reading a paragraph once a week… That’s a far cry from the 12 hours every Saturday wms suggests on. You won’t find 5am worship in the Bible (not just because they didn’t have electricity back then), but because only Satan would tell you you have to get up at 3 or 4am 20 times a year to be at a church building by 4:30/4:55am… God says “i give my beloved sleep.” There’s no religious text on the planet of any diety demanding it’s followers to worship them that early. Why, because that’s crazy!! No one even thought to make that up in religious myths that’s so absurd lol! Also wms prays at 5am every day-that’s absolutely absurd too (because they go back to sleep and it breaks their sleep cycle). That is LITERALLY the reason why wmscog leaders are so mean-they’ve had a broken sleep cycle for so many years that they’re cracking (because they get home late every day, at least after 9:30 if not at 10 or 10:30pm (or much later often), and they still break their sleep cycle at 5am, though almost all of them go back to bed right after because they’re so tired. Gil is not God because she’s not smart enough A: to know the concept of the 10 commandants, and B: for making her devotees the meanest people on the planet just about by waking them up at 5am. It’s not even that they’re naturally mean-they’ve just been stressed so many years (without proper sleep cycles) that they’re cracking. Gil is “God” but doesn’t know that when you break your sleep cycle like that, you not only don’t get the benefits of the 1.5 hour that you interrupted, but also-if you didn’t sleep at least 1.5 hours you won’t get much benefit from it (but it cannot be natural/deep sleep because you broke it mid way). You have to sleep so many consecutive hours STRAIGHT to actually get deep/beneficial sleep…i guess “god” doesn’t know that… But most people on earth know that, so Gil obviously knows but just doesn’t care… That’s because she’s Satan. To Gil it’s “i have to get up so early and suffer, SO YOU HAVE TO SUFFER TOO…i actually have been studying psychology since i was a teen-ager and am going to spell it out later-but Gil cannot NOT fit into the sociopathic personality types… It’s not just narcissistic and a necrophiliac… It’s totally not normal for anyone to think they are the “sinless God…” It’s not just that it’s not normal-it can only happen when the person literally doesn’t see their own sin… But Gil cannot help but see her own sin sometimes… Therefore she HAS to project it onto someone else. I think in a way Gil literally doesn’t see her own sin… But the leaders learn to always put blame on others through the same superiority complex (aka literal inferiority complex). I think about my own sin every day, finding it hard not to think about it, and finding it hard to forgive myself… That is actually normal… (Almost all people are like that). Let me resay it-the ONLY people who are NOT like that are in the sociopathic personality category-PERIOD. Gil lectures about “being considerate, kind” etc, when she is the most inconsiderate and unkind person on the planet! Reference she makes her followers get up at 5am to pray every day…she says she’s God and she made that rule… But she cannot just “NOT” create that rule… It’s the “i have to suffer, so you have to suffer personality syndrome.” God is not like that reference God is not a sociopath…lol… God is like “i and Jesus will do all the work and make sure you get to Heaven, but you need to physically rest and take care of yourself by resting PLENTY-yes you have to do this, you must rest or life will feel too stressful it you don’t. Life is stressful enough, so make sure you rest!” That is God’s personality type, look at the 10 commandants. God is VERY MUCH against slavery, reference of all the love stories to express Himself, God chose to rescue kingdom Israel from those abusing them and enslaving them to show His love. God is very creative and could have written any story in history. However He made the point “you are my children, not anyone’s slaves for them to take advantage of you (to make money).” That is the meaning of the Passover… All the contention over which day to eat bread and wine, which day to do Sabbath… That’s missing the point… And taking several hours to eat bread and wine and making people worship 3 hours on Saturday (i mean 4.5 hours because you have to sit there bored to death, getting there half an hour early). That’s all bogus-that’s automatically more hours than what the priests did in the old testament on Sabbaths… A New Covenant that is more work to do than the Old Covenant-there is no such thing as that…wmscog is simply slavery by people with sociopathic tendencies… Gil is cute and can be funny (i know-i loved her too), but that doesn’t undo the fact that she’s a necrophiliac… Don’t let any organization or company make you their slave to inflate their ego or their wallet-especially not a Church! That’s what i wanted to say most… thanks

  • #73217

    Mayor and Mike
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    Oh hey anon. How are you? I think I’m done for now. I read this post later.

    #73218

    anon7
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    @mayor yes please rest, break etc. That’s the point if the post. I’m resting officially tomorrow (and Monday). I was never so relieved to look at my phone and realize tomorrow is Saturday as just now…lol… Ty for reading-this is the biggest thing on my heart… This post

    #73219

    Mayor and Mike
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    Ok Anon. That’s quite the comment you posted. I’ll save it for sunday and chew on it then. Talk with you later. 🙂

    #73220

    anon7
    Participant

    How am i? I’m relieved tomorrow is Saturday/happy to have you all to talk to. I didn’t make it out to a restaurant tonight as you suggested @mayor…(nor did i remember to eat dinner tonight lol…i just now realized that lol… It’s much closer to midnight here now than dinner time lol). I’m the person who developed mutating eating disorders from being around people who were anorexic too long (from being in a counseling program around ladies with eating disorders) lol… I’m fine now…i just forget to eat sometimes…i still get 1500 calories every day… Now days… Really funny though… When my hypoglycemia lets up, then i forget to eat…(usually i have to eat every 2/3 hours or the pain increases per hour after…). That has gotten better recently, but now i forget to eat lol… I’m just publicizing my real self… I don’t know how i did full time college, worked, and jumped through wms hoops… People tend to tell me “oh you just can’t do this or that…” I’m like “do you have any idea how much i did per day… And still do…” I could go to Zion on ZERO sleep, and often did, and no one even knew…or could tell…i used to have insomnia… Since i left wms, my sleep is 100℅ better… But it was that bad lol…

    #73221

    anon7
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    Ttyl @mayor, please rest…i couldn’t even bare to edit that post because i couldn’t bare to scroll down to highlight it all to copy it…lol… And it took 2 notes to write it-not gonna recopy them…i used to write to Gil EVERY day-a LOT! long letters…so sad… Do you all know she doesn’t read most of them, but has “trusted lead members” read them…(they never even tell you strangers are reading your private letters, you wrote them not knowing that! Then you find out years later, “oh some lead members read them.”) That’s so CREEPY, and such an invasion of privacy!!! How can that be LEGAL!! The members don’t know that, and if they find out it’s years later!!!

    #73222

    anon7
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    I don’t care if people know a little of my life story-i had had so much happen before i was even and adult… By time i was an adult…i was already burnt out from years off stuff since i was like 3 years old…i don’t personally remember my child hood-it’s blocked out. People who know me tell me “you’re the strongest person i (personally) know on earth.” People often tell me “you’re the nicest/sweetest person,” too. My teenage years were hard… By time i was an adult…i needed counseling bad, let’s put it that way. (It was a Christian counseling program i went to-i was Christian and saved when i was 15). I needed to be able to talk it out once i was an adult. Funnily I’m doing the same thing now… Again… Just publically…lol. Anything i can do to get people out of controlling churches or prevent them from getting into them… Just because i lost several years there doesn’t mean other people have to go through that… You wake up one day and realize you were tricked, and the people you trusted were just in the crazy category…(but Gil thinks she’s God because Sahng led her to believe that…).

    #73223

    AbbaFather07
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    Anon I wish you would tell your story. What I really wish is if you would post a YT of your testimony! I understand why you wont but Im interested in what went down w u. It sounds like u were in for a long time.

    #73224

    anon7
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    Alright-waaay too many people hate God and develop a great hatred for God or spiritually because of concepts like wms ones. Plugged here, moving to blog to put the verses there for length, but come on-we’ll play the the wms game and entertain their idea just a moment. Wms you want to make God YHVH sound like a controlling control freak-to each their own-go ahead and have your psychopathic sounding God. But do not come over to America of all places, and start telling people YHVH IS NOT JUST-wms we have put up with your oppressiveness, your over working members and tolerated you, but DO NOT walk over to the USA of all places and tell unsuspecting young people “you know you could go to hell for a very long time for what you did in this ‘previous past’ life (so baptize now)” -look all churches say baptize, but do NOT walk over to one of the best most JUST countries, and tell kids basically “you know God is not just ot merciful right?” You haven’t just deleted God from the Bible wms, you’ve deleted the very concept, idea of God. IT WOULD NOT MATTER IF THERE WAS A PAST LIFE, A PREVIOUS LIFE BEFORE EARTH OR NOT-GOD WOULD NEVER HOLD THAT AGAINST ANYONE ANYWAYS (this was the concept of judgement that made me was too uncomfortable with wms to stay there-the “what you’ve done in some other life can and will be held against you [unless…]). Wms obviously has no concept of the blood of Jesus despite them making it take several hours to eat a piece of bread and drink some juice EVERY year. LOOK-you are entitled to your own messed up unjust unmerciful view of God-but don’t vome over here, making YHVH look 100 times worse than people already thought He was. People already hate God enough-they don’t need your “help” lol. So just go be athiest on your own-STOP telling young people who haven’t gotten to study anything yet that “God is so unmerciful He would charge you with a past life’s crimes, and is SO unjust that He was just going to let the penalty come to everyone (no wms-no one has ever gone to hell for some past previous life they can’t remember, and no one will EVER go to hell for that). I know you don’t believe in the power of Christ’s blood (but Christans do-that’s why they’re Christian). Stop telling anyone Christ didn’t already pay for past sins (whatever they are). That’s all over the Bible that Christ’s sacrifice paid for ALL the sins (before a believer accepted Christ and their nature changed to no longer malicious)-but Christ’s sacrifice paid for all sin, especially some sin in a past life/previous world. People can’t remember those things if they happened? Why!? Because they would be irrelevant anyways-Christ already paid for that if it existed anyways. God wants everyone to live as they were born with a clean slate! Why? Christ already purchased that for everyone with His blood (in a way Jesus did save everyone-no original sin making them born on earth could be charged against anyone) -on the other hand a person absolutely has to accept Jesus as the Messiah (and believe in the sacrifice on the cross to be saved)-i do agree there was an invisible sacrifice that took place those 6 hours, not just what was seen to the eye)- however, as it’s said “the Lamb slain before the creation of the world.” Obviously the sins before people’s birth on earth were paid for anyways-before the creation of the world was the “spiritual world.” It does not matter if there was a spiritual world (where people were alive before their physical birth)-this doesn’t matter, because it would have been paid for anyways-that’s the grace of the cross-no one on earth should have to walk around feeling bad every day for things they can’t even remember “they did.” Even if it did happen-it’s like it didn’t happen-no one can suffer for anything that they did before earth anyways (God only wanted people to just focus on the 10 commandants and their life on earth-that’s it). Sahng introduced a philosophical concept “well what if there was bad sin before earth?” Sahng wasn’t infallible-his philosophy is invalid. No one would be charged with the crimes of a previous life anyways-so it’s not something people should have to live with having to think about (that’s why it’s the most scarce concept in the Bible that’s barely there). Stop looking at sahng as some infallible Jesus-he never said he was that anyways. Look at the Bible and how far the blood of Jesus would reach. “The Lamb slain from the creation of the world,” and the concept that “in a way Christs blood did save everyone,” that’s biblical, but in a way people still have to believe in the blood of Christ and accept it. Stop telling people God is keeping score from some past life no one has any recollection of-people hate God enough as it is-wms you just make that way worse.

    #73225

    genny
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    Anon, I feel like you have something important to say, but the large blocks of text are overwhelming me and I'm not able to absorb your points.

    Maybe it's my own problem with visual input, but it would help me out so much if you could press the enter key regularly to break up your typing into smaller chunks.

    Large blocks of text make my mind stress out like I'm in college. But small chunks help me find important information like reading a news article. I really want to catch what you're saying, and that would help a LOT.

    #73226

    anon7
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    Thanks @genny, thank you so much. I’m trying to organize, condense, and reput in on my blog in like bullet points. I forget I’m not normal-most people don’t read all day… I’m sorry for the length-how it’s not broken up. As long as people get “wms is the worst church on earth, not God’s church,” then it’s cool. Ty for reading

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