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I am currently reading about another group that discovered by reading the truth and understanding, just how badly they were mislead. The people in this church group believed with all of their hearts that they were following the will of God by following the doctrine of the church. This group believed in Saturday Sabbath, feast dates, and that people who didn't follow their ways were lost and separated from the kingdom. I will quote for you some of the things written in the book called, "Difficult Scriptures." The title of this book is what this group called any scripture that went against their doctrine. Loaded language if you will. The author states, "I am not questioning anyone's sincerity, conversion or standing with God. All churches have doctrinal errors. And all ministers make mistakes. As James said, as ministers and teachers, "We all stumble in many things" (James 3:2).
This group is a very big church and with the revelations of past mistakes in their doctrine this group has split. There are people who don't want to see the truth and want to continue in the old ways and old doctrines. This reminds me of the Jewish Christians and the Gentile Christians in the beginning. How many of the Jews tried to impose their old customs and traditions on the Gentiles? How many Mosaic Laws would have been imposed had these folks had their way? How many times do we have to go over the same ground when God already made the truth clear to us? Peter addressed these issues in his day. Almost ten years after Peter first had his vision about the clean and unclean food and first spoke to Cornelius about Jesus Christ the Jewish Christians were still trying to say that the Gentiles had to follow Moses Law in order to be saved. Peter addressed this quite clearly when he said, "You know." This means that these folks already knew about the words Peter was about to share with them. You know that God knows the heart, acknowledged them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as He did to us. Acts tells the story about how the practitioners of the Law (those of the circumcision) who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. Folks, the Gentiles were not practitioners of the Law of Moses. They held no feast or Passover or traditions of the Jewish people. They were excluded until God chose to include them. God did not put the stipulation on us that we had to do anything but believe in Jesus as the Christ. In Acts Peter also asserts that God 'made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith". Why would anyone willingly challenge Gods decision about this? Acts 15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." Salvation is by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ to Jew and Gentile alike, with no Mosaic additions. God himself closed this discussion, and no matter how much some would like to deliberate this issue, no one in the Christian era has ever been given the authority to require the law od Moses of new converts. Things like to feast, the Saturday Sabbath, and the Passover are not requirements and never has been requirements for Christians.
Just a side note: The idea that Peter would share the good news with someone like Cornelius just proves how Gods ways are not our own. Peter was a devout Jew growing up and carried with him a deep seated distain for Romans. Cornelius was a devoted Roman soldier who also believed that Jesus was who He said He was. Peter at one time drew a sword on a Roman was sent by Jesus to a Roman soldier to bring him into fellowship as a believer in Jesus. What a great picture!
Absolutely right Joshua.
Exodus 12:43-49
Passover Restrictions
43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “These are the regulations for the Passover meal:
“No foreigner may eat it. 44 Any slave you have bought may eat it after you have circumcised him, 45 but a temporary resident or a hired worker may not eat it.
46 “It must be eaten inside the house; take none of the meat outside the house. Do not break any of the bones. 47 The whole community of Israel must celebrate it.
48 “A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it. 49 The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you.”
The passover was only for the Jews as a commemoration of the liberation from Egypt. If you call it a passover then you must go the whole way.
What Jesus did at the last supper and asked to be repeated, was on the occassion of the passover. His command to do likewise was about eating His body and drinking His blood. It was not about slaughtering a lamb, which became redundant after His crucifixion. There was also nothing in His command that this commemoration was to be only an annual feature. In fact, when Paul writes about it in his letter to the Corinthians, there is an element of high frequency in the commemoration.
There is also the insistence from the other side that Jesus words in Matthew 26:27-28 meant that the passover bread and wine offered salvation. However, a careful reading reveals that salvation was earned by the pouring out of His blood, and the bread and wine is a commemoration of His sacrifice, not the earner of salvation as is made out.
27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
You guys are too kind. I wish I was had as kind as the both o you. All I see are lies:(
emil wrote:
Absolutely right Joshua.
Exodus 12:43-49
Passover Restrictions
43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “These are the regulations for the Passover meal:
“No foreigner may eat it. 44 Any slave you have bought may eat it after you have circumcised him, 45 but a temporary resident or a hired worker may not eat it.
46 “It must be eaten inside the house; take none of the meat outside the house. Do not break any of the bones. 47 The whole community of Israel must celebrate it.
48 “A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it. 49 The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you.”
The passover was only for the Jews as a commemoration of the liberation from Egypt. If you call it a passover then you must go the whole way.
It's interesting for people to say it is only for Jews when verse 48 says the opposite… How do verses 43 and 48 fit together
It just needs unless in there somewhere. No man can ever come to my house! EVER! A handsome man may to come to my house. Sounds like a contradiction? No man can ever come to my house! EVER! Unless he's a handsome man, then he may come. Still a contradiction?
renita.payno wrote:
It just needs unless in there somewhere. No man can ever come to my house! EVER! A handsome man may to come to my house. Sounds like a contradiction? No man can ever come to my house! EVER! Unless he's a handsome man, then he may come. Still a contradiction?
I agree with that Renita
Simon wrote:
It's interesting for people to say it is only for Jews when verse 48 says the opposite… How do verses 43 and 48 fit together
Verse 43 is the limiting verse, resticting the passover to Jews. Verses 44 and 48 provide the exceptions. In other words, you need to be converted to the Jewish faith to partake of the passover.
As Joshua said, I too admire your knowledge and intellect. I don't think you actually needed my answer but were testing.
Life…. it gives you the test then you learn the lesson. No me gusta.
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