What was it that got you involved in the group?

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  • #7617
    Joshua
    Participant

    I have a crazy curiosity about how people got involved in the WMSCOG? For my loved one the WMSCOG used the Sabbath study to open the door and confuse her into spiritual death. What did it for you weather you are in this group or free from it? I understand that almost every person involved in this kind of group took it in hook, line, and sinker without doing any outside research. So, what got you into this group?

  • #67216

    Smurf
    Participant

    I did a little research beforehand and I almost immediately found people say they are a cult. But from my experience (and partly due to my non-conformist nature) if someone is getting a lot of flak, they're probably on the right path.

    Not this time 😀

    The other thing was I had no knowledge of scripture so everything impressed me. Mostly Daniels vision and the Roman catholic w.hore

    #67217

    Curious1
    Participant

    What got me in the group was my love for my loved one. I was told that we would go to heaven and that we would stay together forever. I got in in 2009. I noticed that I had changed, got more involved, feeling like someone else. The end of the world was set for 2012, but "father' could collect us anytime. Althought I didn't have faith very much, I got in. We argued a lot about 2012, because I had all kinds of arguments. I went to the saterdaymeetings on and off, and even went to Korea, but didn't feel at ease. After 2012 had passed I was told that it was expanded to the end of the biblical year, when that went over, I stopped going. I didn't attend the passover anymore, 2012 was the last pass over, I was told, there would be no other pass overs anymore, anytime. When the passover 2013 came, I didn't attend. I stopped going to the meetings, I was finished with the group. My spouse is still deeply involved, buying all the crap they still sell. This gave so much stress in our relationship, that I decided to end it. Free of stress, free of manipulation, free of mindcontroll, free of indoctrination and dictation. I hope my loved ones eyes will open someday. I hope this forum helps others to get out of this distructive cult.

    #67218

    Azula
    Participant

    For me it was the Sabbath and Passover. It was a simple message and it made perfect sense. There had to be certain rituals in the bible that had to be celebrated universally by all Christians. Muslims, as an example, are a tighly controlled religion and religious rituals are for the most part universal. That structure appealed to me at first.

    The problem for me came in when emphasis was about the ritual rather than the principle. Folks should have the free will to decide whether or not they want to keep religious rights free from prejudice of the fastidious. Those who are free also should not p*** judgement on the zealous. This is true freedom and love, when you are allowed to make your own choices and are accepted and loved regardless.

    However ash and mama z always reminded you of how God would never accept you without the ritual. Keeping the ritual made you a good person and thus won you the approval and love of god. This sort of reasoning made me question the Creator himself. If in fact mama z and ash were the so called "true god" they came across as incredibly petty and narrow minded. There are clearly so many good people in the world and I couldn't reconcile the idea that because they don't eat bread and wine at the appointed time, for whatever reason, that God would cast them to the flames.

    So I left and have never been happier.

    #67219

    unknown
    Participant


    @Azula
    making your own choices in the WMSCOG? Hahaha that's a good one man you had me goin for a second

    #67220

    setufree
    Participant

    Sabbath made sense to me biblically.

    Tbh it was their love bombing that was nice at first, after it stopped, I became more interested in how they ran things and kept such strict control over really intelligent young men and women.

    #67221

    Simon
    Participant

    God’s calendar

    #67222

    remco9519
    Participant

    look here friends. whats the core of beliefs of this group?  2 gods (korean couple) both we dont know their past.  do they got children.  the father god whos in his grave he got children from first wife legal marriage as to sources, mother god was separated from former husband. do they have children.  question and please throw this to WMSCOG if you know how because they not letting me in whenever i connect to their sites. my wifi just got good signal but pc not responding, means high cpu activity.  how would they attribute both the children of their father god and that of mother god along with behaviours and characters of these children who are supposed to be all gods now. (Disgusting story) but i can play around even to their high pastor if he wants a debate. 

    going in depth, WMSCOG is not a church, its an organization of one of a new age movement designed to spill deceptions and lies to misled people and tear peoples life including their spiritual welfare. somebody a rich individual and/or entity is/are behind this group. u see how many churches and buildings they built in few years? core of operation are lies and deceptions worldwide.  the scheme of agenda 21, new world order employing the same tactics.  what about an idea that they are part of the Illuminati/Freemasons?  Possible perhaps but who are the illuminati-freemasons?  the council of 300, Vatican is a forerunner. 

    #67223

    Joshua
    Participant

    They would not be a part of a society like these. This would require them to come under the authority of others and this is something that this man made group would never go for. They are all about control and giving any of this control to anyone else will never come into play with these guys. In this way they are small potatoes. For those of us that have been affected by them they are a big deal but because they are small potatoes they remain under the radar of most people.

    #33167

    Travis
    Participant

    Joshua wrote:

    They would not be a part of a society like these. This would require them to come under the authority of others and this is something that this man made group would never go for. They are all about control and giving any of this control to anyone else will never come into play with these guys. In this way they are small potatoes. For those of us that have been affected by them they are a big deal but because they are small potatoes they remain under the radar of most people.


    @Joshua
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    The day will come when the affected parties will be so great that it won't go unnoticed anymore. The repercussion will be so great that WMS won't have any other choice but to either come forward with all their lies or be destroyed by the rage of "US" the affected parties. 

    #67224

    Travis
    Participant

    Joshua wrote:

    They would not be a part of a society like these. This would require them to come under the authority of others and this is something that this man made group would never go for. They are all about control and giving any of this control to anyone else will never come into play with these guys. In this way they are small potatoes. For those of us that have been affected by them they are a big deal but because they are small potatoes they remain under the radar of most people.


    @Joshua
    ..

    The day will come when the affected parties will be so great that it won't go unnoticed anymore. The repercussion will be so great that WMS won't have any other choice but to either come forward with all their lies or be destroyed by the rage of "US" the affected parties. 

    #67225

    Joshua
    Participant

    Travis wrote:

    Joshua wrote:

    They would not be a part of a society like these. This would require them to come under the authority of others and this is something that this man made group would never go for. They are all about control and giving any of this control to anyone else will never come into play with these guys. In this way they are small potatoes. For those of us that have been affected by them they are a big deal but because they are small potatoes they remain under the radar of most people.


    @Joshua
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    The day will come when the affected parties will be so great that it won't go unnoticed anymore. The repercussion will be so great that WMS won't have any other choice but to either come forward with all their lies or be destroyed by the rage of "US" the affected parties. 

     I am really looking forward to this day. Not so I can say, "I told you so!" But so that the members that have been lied to will realize the fraud and have people that they can talk to about it. As for the ringleaders, the judgement will be great! There will be no where for them to hide and the former member who have realized the truth will be stronger for it in the end. My heart longs for the day.

    #33157

    Joshua
    Participant

    Travis wrote:

    Joshua wrote:

    They would not be a part of a society like these. This would require them to come under the authority of others and this is something that this man made group would never go for. They are all about control and giving any of this control to anyone else will never come into play with these guys. In this way they are small potatoes. For those of us that have been affected by them they are a big deal but because they are small potatoes they remain under the radar of most people.


    @Joshua
    ..

    The day will come when the affected parties will be so great that it won't go unnoticed anymore. The repercussion will be so great that WMS won't have any other choice but to either come forward with all their lies or be destroyed by the rage of "US" the affected parties. 

     I am really looking forward to this day. Not so I can say, "I told you so!" But so that the members that have been lied to will realize the fraud and have people that they can talk to about it. As for the ringleaders, the judgement will be great! There will be no where for them to hide and the former member who have realized the truth will be stronger for it in the end. My heart longs for the day.

    #67226

    MountainMom
    Participant


    @Joshua
    :  I second that.  The day will come. 

    #67227

    NB
    Participant

    My girl got involved with them, She introduced them to me and im getting in to pull her out.

    #67228

    Smurf
    Participant

    NB wrote:

    My girl got involved with them, She introduced them to me and im getting in to pull her out.

    Worst.Idea.Ever.

    Second of all, you don't get in while writing on this forum. It's like …espionage 101

    #67229

    Travis
    Participant

    NB wrote:

    My girl got involved with them, She introduced them to me and im getting in to pull her out.

    NB,

    It could have the complete opposite effect of what you are attempting to do. Be really careful and whatever you do, don't act suspicious. Any reason for them to doubt you  and lose her. Remember she's committed, you are not. She would see it as a betrayal. It's as if you cheat on her and she finds out, it will cause the same effect. 

    #67230

    NB
    Participant


    @Smurf

    We are already out.

    @Travis

    I know… But at that time, Theres no way im going to stay passive and let her be alone with them, I figured if they are trying to entice her with more mumbo jumbo… I wanna know what is it.

     

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