WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT JESUS LAST PASSOVER?

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  • #6797
    Joshua
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    While the WMSCOG has their own spin on what the Passover means and how it should be celebrated here's an interesting and possibly a more realistic way of viewing the passover. After the Passover meal Jesus did something that was really out of the normal way of doing things. He took the bread and used it to symbolize his body which would be broken for us. Then he took the cup of redemption and used it to symbolize his blood that would be shed for us. What we have lost over the years is something that the Jews of that time would have understood very well. Jesus actually proposed to his followers (the Church) with this act. When the followers drank from the cup they sealed a blood covenant with their future spouse. Let me explain. In Jesus time when a young man wished to marry there was certain things that he had to do. The young man prepared a Ketubah, or marriage contract (or covenant) which he presented to the intended bride and her father.   Included in this was the " Bride Price ", which was appropriate in that society to compensate the young woman's parents for the cost of raising her, as well as being an expression of his love for her. If this contract was accepted by the future brides father then the young man proceeded to the next step. To see if the proposal was accepted, the young man would pour a cup of wine for his beloved and wait to see if she drank it.   This cup represents a blood covenant. If she drank the cup she would have accepted the proposal and they would be betrothed. The young man would then give gifts to his beloved, and then take his leave.   The young woman would have to wait for him to return and collect her. Do you not see the truth or the correlation yet? I'll go on.  Before leaving the young man would announce, " I am going to prepare a place for you ", and  "I will return for you when it is ready".   The usual practice was for the young man to return to his father's house and build a honeymoon room there.  He was not allowed to skimp on the work and had to get  his father's approval before he could consider it ready for his bride.   If asked the date of his wedding he would have to reply, "Only my father knows." 

    Jesus offered the "Bride Price" for us. We, the Church, accepted his offer and accept his offer everytime we drink from the cup representing his blood. He paid the price and gave us the gift of eternal life amoung others. After his resurrection he stated,  " I am going to prepare a place for you ", and "I will return for you when it is ready".   He then went to his fathers house and began preparing a place for his bride. The place is New Jerusalem where the saints will reside as the Bible says it. By the way, Ahnsahnghong said it as well. And who knows when Jesus is going to come back for us? Jesus told us, "Only my father knows."   Jesus proposed to his bride in the evening after the Passover feast. We are his bride and it is proven by Jesus own actions and words. Anyone who comes preaching another doctrine other than the one taught to you by Jesus and the Apostles is a false prophet and a liar. Jesus paid the price for us and even Ahnsahnghong believed that and preached it till his death. This god the mother who's living in South Korea is a living, breathing, false prophet and liar as is anyone who is spreading these lies and deceiving Gods children. Accept Jesus the Christ as your personal Lord and Savior and he will reside in you and you in him. This is what the Bible teaches us. He's already paid the "Bride Price" for us, all we have to do is accept him. 

  • #43620

    Love'n Honey
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    I only spoke to 1 Jew because not many Jews are willing to share with me their faith. I think it's because I'm unclean. & I know much of the NT is found in the OT. But not all.

    My question to you is what happened to the Temple? I thought the Jews are free to do whatever in Israel. & who cares what PETA says. If I were a Jew, I would believe that PETA was implamented* by satan to keep you from keeping God's laws. According to the history I know, keeping the PO with bread & wine was punishable by death. Guess what.. a lot of Christians died. But they died keeping God's law. Why do you need a Temple to make sacrifices?

    #9143

    Love'n Honey
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    I only spoke to 1 Jew because not many Jews are willing to share with me their faith. I think it's because I'm unclean. & I know much of the NT is found in the OT. But not all.

    My question to you is what happened to the Temple? I thought the Jews are free to do whatever in Israel. & who cares what PETA says. If I were a Jew, I would believe that PETA was implamented* by satan to keep you from keeping God's laws. According to the history I know, keeping the PO with bread & wine was punishable by death. Guess what.. a lot of Christians died. But they died keeping God's law. Why do you need a Temple to make sacrifices?

    #8673

    Love'n Honey
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    Why don't you have priests? How does a Levite become a priest?

    #43621

    Love'n Honey
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    Why don't you have priests? How does a Levite become a priest?

    #8603

    Love'n Honey
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    From what I understand, it is impossible to restore the priesthood?

    #43622

    Love'n Honey
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    From what I understand, it is impossible to restore the priesthood?

    #8512

    Simon
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    loocpoc wrote:

    renita.payno wrote:

    From what I understand, it is impossible to restore the priesthood?

     Not quite. With today's DNA testing not all Jews have the same DNA although we share some common semetic roots. Therefore if the Konahim DNA is identified and it is determined to restore the Temple, then we can start bringing back the priesthood.

    I believe we already know the genetic markers that seperate the Kohanim from the Israelites so that part is definititly not true. What I do not know is how to deal with the ritual unclealiness problem. 

    #43623

    Simon
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    loocpoc wrote:

    renita.payno wrote:

    From what I understand, it is impossible to restore the priesthood?

     Not quite. With today's DNA testing not all Jews have the same DNA although we share some common semetic roots. Therefore if the Konahim DNA is identified and it is determined to restore the Temple, then we can start bringing back the priesthood.

    I believe we already know the genetic markers that seperate the Kohanim from the Israelites so that part is definititly not true. What I do not know is how to deal with the ritual unclealiness problem. 

    #43624

    Simon
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    loocpoc wrote:

    renita.payno wrote:

    From what I understand, it is impossible to restore the priesthood?

     Not quite. With today's DNA testing not all Jews have the same DNA although we share some common semetic roots. Therefore if the Konahim DNA is identified and it is determined to restore the Temple, then we can start bringing back the priesthood.

    I believe we already know the genetic markers that seperate the Kohanim from the Israelites so that part is definititly not and issue. What I do not know is how to deal with the ritual unclealiness problem. 

    #8509

    Simon
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    loocpoc wrote:

    renita.payno wrote:

    From what I understand, it is impossible to restore the priesthood?

     Not quite. With today's DNA testing not all Jews have the same DNA although we share some common semetic roots. Therefore if the Konahim DNA is identified and it is determined to restore the Temple, then we can start bringing back the priesthood.

    I believe we already know the genetic markers that seperate the Kohanim from the Israelites so that part is definititly not and issue. What I do not know is how to deal with the ritual unclealiness problem. 

    #43625

    Joshua
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    I think what Jesus did at his last Passover was the coolest thing ever!

    #43626

    Sueno Maruyama
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    Joshua wrote:

    I think what Jesus did at his last Passover was the coolest thing ever!

    Well, if you are Christian, YES!  But if Jewish …. maybe not ….

    #43627

    Joshua
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    Of course, as a believer of Jesus as the Christ it would mean a lot to me. For those folks that don't see Jesus as the messiah I imagine that the new testament and the proposal of Jesus to his bride doesn't mean much. Part of what is revealed here shows a contradiction between what believers see and what the cult teaches. I hope that all of us can appreciate this part of what is revealed here.

    #43628

    Simon
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    loocpoc wrote:

    To me.. he had dinner then broke the law of being a medium..

    He didn't consult the dead!

    #43629

    Simon
    Participant

    So making prophecy is being a medium ok

    #43630

    Simon
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    No, its prophecy,

    #43631

    genny
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    If it is God speaking (or giving a message through the speaker), then it is prophecy.

    #43632

    Simon
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    where does prophecy say prophecy ended?

    #43633

    Joshua
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    I want everyone to see this post again. It is one of the most touching things that has ever happened to the Christian church.

    #43634

    Love'n Honey
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    Christians, is it written anywhere in the OT that the messaih would be betrayed?

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