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I went to the WMSCOG website. Everytime I go to this website I feel like I have infected myself with some kind of plague. I feel filthy just having read some of this cults stuff. They have a part there that’s called the truth of life and in this area is a subtopic called sole. This group has spent a great deal of time convincing people that the flesh is dust and the spirit is the breath of God. The Bible says God breathed into the nostrils of man and he became a living being. After this they make the assumption that the breath is the spirit. They take this further by saying God is spirit, Jesus is spirit, and all of the angels are spirit. I’m cool with the idea that God created a living being and that we are both spirit and flesh. I see a problem with the assumption that angels are not beings and that Jesus is only a spirit. Jesus has a body and there have been many accounts of people seeing angels. If the spirit is breath and the angels are spirits then how were they ever seen? The Bible even tells us to entertain strangers because we may actually entertain an angel. Also, angels are the messengers of God to the saints. Once again, how would we see them? I can see breath when it gets cold enough but I’m sure that God sends messages when it’s not cold too. These are just simple thoughts of mine. I look forward to your comments on this.
One other thing I noticed is that a large part of the message on the WMSCOG website seemed to suggest leaving the body as soon as possible. How much of a push to these members would it take to make it seem like they should end their lives? Zahng Gil Jal (aka. mother) has already suggested that Passover was the last one they would celebrate. I’m disturbed by what I’m reading and hearing. We need to free as many people from this bondage as fast as we can. This could get really out of hand quickly. Your thoughts please.
I actually have to disagree (to an extent) Jesus is His spirit not His flesh, Jesus would be Jesus no matter what flesh He was born in, I see the idea of only spirit a bit of a nonsensical statement, God clearly doesn't preserve our flesh but only our spirits otherwise we wouldn't get new bodies when we go to heaven, so a spirit must be more meaningful than any flesh. Also we don't know that we cannot see spirit. The idea of Breath of Life isn't breath like we see breath anyways; otherwise I could create life by breathing into a corpse.
I definitively agree on the second part I am terrified about that. Seriously doing some research Heavens Gate was anti-suicide much like WMSCOG is but they managed to still convince their followers to kill themselves, so even though WMSCOG teaches against suicide who knows how Zahng Gil Jah could twist things.
Summer 2010 she said Father was going to come but she asked him not to.
Then the North Koreans later attacked that island and they point to the prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem surrounded and two years later destruction came (68 AD and 70 AD) and pointed to the feast study and pointed out how the feasts are to be fulfilled by 2012
Now she says last Passover.
This looks like an endgame situation and I only see one out for her and it is not pretty especially for us outside.
Ahn was supposed to come in 2012, but Mother told him not to? Forgive me but I am confused…
They teach that God is male and female, Ahn is the male (father) and Zahn is the female (mother). So the male part of God was going to return to Earth but the female part of God said not to. How can this be? I have not read on the Bible that God has dual conversations and decision making within Himself. If Ahn is God and Zahn is Jerusalem, a lesser entity than God, would God change His will and authority for the will of a lesser being, for a human’s wisdom? Throughout the Bible, God’s decisions are influenced by no one. He has shown compassion on people because He knows their hearts, but his wrath wasn’t stopped.
If I have this understand wrong, please correct me.
I looked at the their website yesterday, which I have not done in a very long time. I did see one sermon that said something about the time soon coming when we will turned back to angels.
I too am very curious to what they're preaching to their members with the "end" coming soon and since they have had their "last" Passover. My friend says things like he knows the end is coming but at the same time is making plans to open his own business. Which doens't make sense to me because it wouldnt be around long if it all is going to "end" soon. I wonder if they already have something in place to tell their memebers when it doesn't all "end" to make them stay. I pray when their tactics don't fall through there is a mass exit!
Rahab wrote:
Ahn was supposed to come in 2012, but Mother told him not to? Forgive me but I am confused…
They teach that God is male and female, Ahn is the male (father) and Zahn is the female (mother). So the male part of God was going to return to Earth but the female part of God said not to. How can this be? I have not read on the Bible that God has dual conversations and decision making within Himself. If Ahn is God and Zahn is Jerusalem, a lesser entity than God, would God change His will and authority for the will of a lesser being, for a human's wisdom? Throughout the Bible, God's decisions are influenced by no one. He has shown compassion on people because He knows their hearts, but his wrath wasn't stopped.
If I have this understand wrong, please correct me.
I looked at the their website yesterday, which I have not done in a very long time. I did see one sermon that said something about the time soon coming when we will turned back to angels.
In 2010.
Male God and Female God not different parts they are seen in COG as equal, well actually COG teaches Ahn Sahng Hong fully submits to Zahng Gil Jah he is the Holy Place she is the Most Holy place Father follows mother and so on, but it isn't internal dialogue as they are not one person.
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Male God and Female God not different parts they are seen in COG as equal, well actually COG teaches Ahn Sahng Hong fully submits to Zahng Gil Jah he is the Holy Place she is the Most Holy place Father follows mother and so on, but it isn't internal dialogue as they are not one person.
Ahnsahnghong fully submits to Zahng Gil Jah? She is more holy? Father follows mother?
That does not make sense. The when the Bible talks about husband and wife, the husband is the head, and the wife submits.
And how do you have two "Gods" if one is submissive to the other? Is that a greater god and a lesser god? They are not equal then, and therefore, one of them can't fully be God, right?
How do they reconcile all this?
Genny, did I ever say WMSCOG makes sense?
after leaving of course 😛
I dunno but they seem to care a whole lot about money. Not sure how much money they can make if everyone is dead lol. But then again, Jim Jones was one of the last to be killed, since he didn't drink the cool aid but instead asked someone to shoot him. What if the leaders don't drink the cool aid and just tell everyone else to? All of the money they have made thus far would be theirs I guess. Just a hypothetical.
That sounds like it would be the plan,the problem would be if all the members commit ritual suicide how would they not get caught.
What happened in the past whenever their predictions did not come true?
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