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I just watched this Telemundo report about the Wmscog and its leaders. It is so sad that this people work so hard for nothing. No one can guarantee them heaven, eternal life, neither that they are part of the 144000. Not even their goddess. They ended the report saying that they wish to open more churches in the US.
jellybean wrote:
I just watched this Telemundo report about the Wmscog and its leaders. It is so sad that this people work so hard for nothing. No one can guarantee them heaven, eternal life, neither that they are part of the 144000. Not even their goddess. They ended the report saying that they wish to open more churches in the US.
I am 100% convinced that certain people will believe anything. The art form comes in when picking that certain someone. May God help us all.
ok the plain simple truth is theres two type of members in sion.
one type is the type that actually making a living by "working" for wmscog, these were the people who got paid to go out and recruit people who would pay, these were the worst kind of wmscog since they were fully aware about what they done but they just consider it as business.
second were a brainwashed drones, these were the victims, they were the people that got robbed and emotionally battered and abused on daily basis with heavy "study" to turn them into mindless wailing members.
The one who recruited my relative is one of those paid missionaries, and he guards my relative very jealously. He knows he's a cash cow for them, and I'm sure he has orders to "handle" him. He's gone to extremes to do so if he senses that a family member might be trying to talk him out of the group. The pastor at Chicago Zion said he isn't paid. When we asked my relative how he makes money then, he said the pastor owns an electronics company in Korea.
Jellybean, where is this video or report? I would love to see it. My relative is in that Zion.
correct, some missionaries were those that makes a living by working for wmscog for deacons yes they were those who got paid also, these were not strictly koreans, some local members were also a paid workers but most of the time they were the original local line-up of that sion, these are usually the kind that go snapping defending wmscog, afteral its their job.
mountainmom, thats how they always cover about wmscog is basically just business, when you asked about how those people make a living, they always threw the same story "he/she own this and that in korea"
Oh, and his business must not do too well because my relative says the pastor can't even afford health insurance. so when he is sick, my relative helps him with whatever he needs.
mountainmom, thats just not the case, believe me i know.
thats just how they make members pay for everything, how many times these kind of things happens around sion all over the world, they cant afford to pay their lease, the cant afford to pay their this and that…. its all the same modus operandy, they were just making you pay for their expense.
Yes, I know. They told my relative that they had all these bills for utilities etc., in their big beautiful Zion in Chicago to pay, and they were having much trouble making these payments. so I'm sure he poured in more money. How could they be having trouble? It's a ruse I've read about in their other Zions as well. The always promote some story to get people to pay more.
i have seen and heard about those kind of "drama" almost everywhere here in asia sions, how the deacon or deaconess is so poor that they cannot even afford to pay their electrical bill YET they always carry the latest smartphones and drove the latest SUV's
Again, is there any way I can view this video about the Chicago Zion?
And then when a member is financially in trouble, they would just say "We cannot help you, you must overcome your problems yourself with prayers to god the mother so you will become spiritually enriched *while we get rich with all the money we horde from you*.
Wow, I just viewed that Telemundo video. It's put together strangely, really only one picture that I recognized of the Naperville Church. The rest were all cobbled together from videos elsewhere, apparently trying to give the idea that there are thousands of people here in the U.S. in every one of their churches. Heck, everyone's doing it! That is a marketing technique I recognize called "social proofing." Look that term up because you will recognize several things they do inside the church along the lines of social proofing. They are just manipulations to get people to think everyone is doing this, so it has to be good. As far as 350 people being members in the Naperville church, I have been there several times as has my husband, and there was never even close to a quarter of that number in attendance. They must count the people they baptized before these poor people even knew what was happening, and then call them members. They really aren't. They just didn't know what was really happening at the time. I didn't.
Notice there are no negative comments after the video. Just the canned comments by members. Typical.
Propaganda was nothing new for wmscog, why do you think overseas members were always “suggested” to visit budang and do that cool Kodak moment where everybody stands in that field outside the elohim academy, gosh they even made a poster from that photo and hang it on every sion i know of.
jellybean wrote:
Yep. I struggled to be able to buy food for my lunch break at work and I lost much weight till I wasn't looking healthy anymore and then the leaders started asking me about it and the Pastor and they encouraged me to get a job around the church so I can come and have dinner over there. Just like if jobs were everywhere waiting for people. The father of my one friend that brought me to the church was also baptized and when he started to struggle he said "don't the Bible says that the tithes are for there never is lack of food in the house of The Lord"??? That is in some verse on the OT. He mentioned that one time because how small were the servings of food on the Sabbath and the other days that they cooked.
Whew. Just from this one experience here, you could really say they are very "money"-minded indeed.
KC wrote:
ok the plain simple truth is theres two type of members in sion.
one type is the type that actually making a living by "working" for wmscog, these were the people who got paid to go out and recruit people who would pay, these were the worst kind of wmscog since they were fully aware about what they done but they just consider it as business.
second were a brainwashed drones, these were the victims, they were the people that got robbed and emotionally battered and abused on daily basis with heavy "study" to turn them into mindless wailing members.
This is a most interesting comment. "Making a living" and "consider it as a business" (WOW) That would mean, and I fully agree, that there are those in there that "actually" (get it ? actually, LOL) believe in nothing at all. KC, you are deep and have proven, to me anyway, that you understand this on a higher plateau. I have made this point myself where I have stated that if you don't believe in anything and you fear no consequences, what wouldn't you do ?
jellybean wrote:
Yep. I struggled to be able to buy food for my lunch break at work and I lost much weight till I wasn't looking healthy anymore and then the leaders started asking me about it and the Pastor and they encouraged me to get a job around the church so I can come and have dinner over there. Just like if jobs were everywhere waiting for people. The father of my one friend that brought me to the church was also baptized and when he started to struggle he said "don't the Bible says that the tithes are for there never is lack of food in the house of The Lord"??? That is in some verse on the OT. He mentioned that one time because how small were the servings of food on the Sabbath and the other days that they cooked.
Those meals are paid for by the people who cooked them.
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