[Sarah2013]

So what happens to the veil now? At least for the ladies. Do I trash it, burn it or flush it? Or bury it?

[Simon]

[Simon]

define long and sort

[Simon]

define long and sort

[Sarah2013]

Long or short is irrelevant these people are milking us in various ways. I want all my money back. What ever happened to FTOS and the rest? Where did they exile to?

[Sarah2013]

Long or short is irrelevant these people are milking us in various ways. I want all my money back. What ever happened to FTOS and the rest? Where did they exile to?

[emil]

Generally in the orient, short hair is less than shoulder length while long is beyond shoulder length. In my country, even below shoulder length wouldn't be called long. Long would extend at least to the waist.

Point is what length was considered the norm in Paul's time and place. And consequently, if one takes Paul's direction about veils as a command, then one must also accept his reasoning about women growing their hair long.

[emil]

Generally in the orient, short hair is less than shoulder length while long is beyond shoulder length. In my country, even below shoulder length wouldn't be called long. Long would extend at least to the waist.

Point is what length was considered the norm in Paul's time and place. And consequently, if one takes Paul's direction about veils as a command, then one must also accept his reasoning about women growing their hair long.

[Simon]

I was rebuked for having long hair which was probably about the length of zhang’s

[Simon]

I was rebuked for having long hair which was probably about the length of zhang’s

[emil]

Oh my last post was about female hair length. The definitions for short and long for males would be different.

[emil]

Oh my last post was about female hair length. The definitions for short and long for males would be different.

[Simon]

how bizarre lol

[Simon]

how bizarre lol

[emil]

Simon wrote:

how bizarre lol

Then you would find Paul's epistles bizzare too.

[emil]

Simon wrote:

how bizarre lol

Then you would find Paul's epistles bizzare too.

[Sarah2013]

I doubt the length of hair matters. I look at it this way, the day I see a real angel with a bald head or one with hair then I’ll draw my conclusions.

[Sarah2013]

I doubt the length of hair matters. I look at it this way, the day I see a real angel with a bald head or one with hair then I’ll draw my conclusions.

[Simon]

where does paul say the definition changes with sex?

[Simon]

where does paul say the definition changes with sex?

[emil]

Simon wrote:

where does paul say the definition changes with sex?

1 Cor 11:14-15a – 

14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?

Paul says that it is the norm for a man to have short hair and a woman to have long hair.

[emil]

Simon wrote:

where does paul say the definition changes with sex?

1 Cor 11:14-15a – 

14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?

Paul says that it is the norm for a man to have short hair and a woman to have long hair.