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battering about bible verses and proofs? Ok.
everybody knows that its one of your “trademark” favorite subject is to demonize the catholic and the image of virgin Mary using all that “proofs” printed neatly on your “facts” booklet, and go on and on about the image of holy mother is a pagan teachin.
i guess you dont teach about a holy mother too? or is it just because mama zhang posed abit different than the rest of “holy mothers”? Oh look! theres no baby in mama zhang photos then she must be the REAL DEAL because she’s not mainstream.
Yea, i know! I used elohist in my conclusion for the study about the 3 ages. In the age of the father, gods people were called Jews. In the age of the son gods people were called Christians, followers of Christ. In the age of the holy spirit gods people are called elohist, followers of Elohim.
Simon wrote:
I was never taught Elohists over christians, its amazing Zions branhed out of the same main one are so different
I think this same thing to myself over and over watching you and Renita converse, and then comparing it to what little I've learned from my girlfriend. It kinda makes me think they'll uktimately tell you whatever it takes to bear fruit. Add that to the reports from longtime members who say they witnessed the doctrine change, and it drives that point home a little further.
The thing is Renita and I went to "Zions" both branched out of the same main Zion and at the same time making the differences scarey
KC wrote:
yea stained, typical sion setup, usually they will have picture of the last supper and mother "teachings" framed on the wall, plus several mama zhang pictures with foreign members walking hand in hand, ASH photos usually just small photo put somewhere more private.
If they can manage to stay afloat I think they're gonna phase Ol' ASH completely out and make the GP the new deity. He'll be either Issac, Abraham, Last Adam, Jacob, Job, Melcheesedick, Moses, First Adam, John the Baptist, Elijah, King David, Samson or maybe even Delilah.
LMAO. As Ringo once said, "I'm the greatest" !
I'm Stained (for life) and I approved this message.
I don't really know a great deal about them but from all I have gathered, I have a gut feeling the GP is the true barin behind this whole scheme. mama zhang is just a prop he needed. I could be wrong here.
No doubts about GP! emil He has been with Ahn as a little boy in a cave when Ahn was writing books while he was figuring out a way to start religious business and this franchise began after Ahn's death. Mum zhang is a puppet on GP's string both enjoying a high lifestyle at the cost of the members money.
Does any of her pictures show she is suffering?. I see her playing in the snow, posing for Photos in her most expensive hanbok's and with GP beside her. She smiles even when members embrace and shed their tears.
I saw a video where she cried when her children were leaving on a bus back to the airport.
@Renita, I think I know what video your talking about, but if you notice the Korean man that was next to her as the latin group waved goodbye from the bus window, and mother put her finger to her eyes as to wipe off a tear, the man next to her had a little smirk in his face (as in laughing at them inside, because they were crying alot) that part seem so unnatural to me. That did not win an Academy Award for best actor/performance with me.
Oh no now they'll never show that video again, because everything we say or do here, they are lurking around taking notes, and possibly adjusting editting their videos or doctrines. noticed I used the word possibly.
I remember a sister showed me a picture of mother. She was smiling and the sister asked me, do you see her pain in her eyes? I, being an honest person, said… No. She looked happy, not sad. But that’s the excuse they use to explain why mother is always smiling. To hide her pain so we won’t grieve for her.
Man…that's good. To hide her pain so we won't grieve for her. You see one thing, and they tell you it's the exact opposite.
Which is pretty much their answer to everything! Scripture says we worship only one God. They say that is to hide the mystery of 2 gods. We see mother smiling. They say it is to hide her pain. We see father lied about the existence of mother. They say it is to hide the truth until the appointed time. Everything that doesn’t makes sense is to hide something else
Elaine wrote:
Does any of her pictures show she is suffering?. I see her playing in the snow, posing for Photos in her most expensive hanbok's and with GP beside her. She smiles even when members embrace and shed their tears.
Judging her for her clothing? seriously? That's exactly what they want you to do only reinforces how shallow they say we are. Also Hanboks aren't expensive. not when you consider what we all spend on clothing anyways.
As for the other comments
Hiding Sadness is easy, so is faking it
Members aren’t allowed to watch that
renita.payno wrote:
Members aren't allowed to watch that
why not? because of the mind games?
Because it doesn't have a good spiritual meaning. We're "allowed" to watch movies that reveal secrets of the KOH or about F&M. Movies like The Matrix, Finding Nemo, The Lion King. There's another movie I enjoyed but I don't remember the title. It's about a "retarded" man who's a door to door salesmen. He was sent to a difficult area of town where no one wanted to even hear about what he was selling let alone buy it. However, throughout the entire movie, his mom was encouraging him to continue to try to sell in that area. After a while, many of the people became regular customers of his. In the end, he received an award for selling the most products. At the award ceremony he thanked his mom for keeping him encouraged because if she hadn't, he would have given up and wouldn't have received the reward. The cutest part about it was that his dad, who had passed away, was a door to door salesman, too.
In case you don't see it, the spiritual message, IAW the WMSCOG, is to the children of F&M. Father went door to door preaching and we are to follow in his footsteps. Though we are the weakest of the weak and are sent to areas that are spiritually dark, we can't give up because Mother is cheering us on. In the end, we will receive the reward of eternal life but we must remember to give all glory and thanks to F&M.
When I say "allowed" I mean we are strongly encouraged to only watch movies approved by Mother.
May i ask the message behind the Matrix?
KC wrote:
Shallowness? Shallow is when you badmouthed or say offensive things about others who dont see things the way you do, shallow is when you judge the level of somebody faith by how much he or she willing to give, shallow is when you tell encourage somebody to forsake their family and spouses… Wmscog talks about how shallow people can be? Wow!
Judging people for clothing is shallow as well.
fedupmom wrote:
May i ask the message behind the Matrix?
Where were all the free humans in the Matrix? They were in Zion of course!
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