There is hope for the WMSCOG but will they realize it?

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    Joshua
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    I have started reading a book about the Worldwide Church of God. Some of you may recognize this cult from several of the cult watch groups. This group was founded by their General Pastor Herbert W. Armstrong who many of us believe to be a false prophet. This book is called, "Coming to Grips with the Law of Moses in the Worldwide Church of God  "Difficult Scriptures" written by David Albert. I just started reading this book but I want to quote part of the preface to you. "The 1990's have been a time of considerable doctrinal change and reform for us. One of the biggest lessons we have learned, rather belatedly, I admit, is that the law of Moses is not required for salvation. This came as a shock because, unlike members of most mainstrean denominations, we in the Worldwide Church of God truly were Christians living under the law of Moses. Thankfully, most of our members have come to understand and agree with these doctrinal changes even though that task has usually not been easy for them.

    This forward also states some of the practices they realize that they are not bound to, "members of the Worldwide Church of God did not eat "unclean meat" such as pork and shellfish, paid not one but two, sometimes three tithes, observed a seventh-day (Saturday) Sabbath and celebrated annual festivals such as the Days of Unleavened Bread and the Feast of Tabernacles.

    I know that many of the members and ex-members of the WMSCOG will recognize similarities between these groups. This group has discovered the errors in some of their doctrine and have made efforts to correctthe false truths that they once defended. The WMSCOG has the opportunity to admit just how in error their doctrine is and I am sure that there will be members that would stick around and try to make things right. There will also be people that will want to cling to the old traditions and that will probably want to splinter off and create their own false religion. One thing is certain, the WMSCOG would have to pitch the harlot that lives off of them out into the street, scrap the old doctrine, and start over again seeking God with fear and trembling. Is there hope for them? YES Will they realize it and embrace it? I don't want my oppinion to cloud your judgement about this. Food for thought people.

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    fromtheotherside
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    actually if u studied correctly the biggest sin is to forsake the holy spirit, to leave the truth

    #54928

    Simon
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    no if you stay as a hypocrite you’re worse off of all

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    fromtheotherside
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    thanku simon if defending god makes me a hypocrite i will gladly accept it

    #54930

    Simon
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    James 5:19 My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

     

    Dereliction of duty when you block God's glory from me and Renita (and whoever else is a former member) because instead of trying to pull us back to truth you push us away

     

    and with Joshua…

    2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.

    1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, 16 keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

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    Simon
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    you're not defending God you are giving God a bad name

    #54932

    fromtheotherside
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    nice simon looks like youve been studying, unfortunatly god doesnt require us to preach to u. n im not trying to simon. u already gave god a bad name when attacked her who had mercy on u. i dont have the same mercy

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    Simon
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    I never once attacked her don’t bear false witness

    #54934

    Simon
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    and yes you’re required to preach to me says the bible says mother says pastor

    #54935

    Love'n Honey
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    Mother requires you to preach to everyone you come across who hasn't heard, who wants to hear, and are of sane mind.

    #54936

    Simon
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    I was told everyone I come across who doesn’t tell me to stopped (multiple times)

    #54937

    Questioninginla
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    fromtheotherside wrote:

    actually if u studied correctly the biggest sin is to forsake the holy spirit, to leave the truth

     Call me late to the party, but…

    Are we talking about Islam here?  Although Yousef Nadarkhani was aquitted of apostasy in Iran for leaving the religion of that theocracy and converting to Christianity, he has been re-arrested and is serving time back behind bars in a prison some describe as quite punishing.

    As far as I know through my research, the Koran does not openly call for the killing of Jews, but as for apostasy… those accused of it certainly face the punishment of death.  So those that leave that religion are worse than those "germs of corruption", otherwise known as Jews.

    I was never quite sure in the studies… Are/were we to understand that Jesus referred to himself in the 3rd person just before giving up his spirit while on the cross?  Because Ahn Sahng-Hong was Jesus, also Father, also Holy Spirit.  Was Jesus from 2000 years ago an incredible narcissist in referring to himself all that time in the 3rd person?  Paul must have been a complete idiot then, never to mention this trait so much as once.

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    Simon
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    it wouldn’t be narcissism

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    Love'n Honey
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    I think, from my mind in the WMSCOG, that Jesus was referring to His 2nd coming when referring to the HS. Right now, I still think the same thing.

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