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- September 23, 2013 at 4:59 AM#6861
- September 23, 2013 at 8:55 AM #64629
emilParticipantCan there be a fake Louis Vuitton bag without a real Louis Vuitton bag? No? Then if a false Mother or Bride appears, it is because there must be a real one.
Wouldn't fake Louis Vuitton bags only start appearing once the original became popular and profitable to duplicate? That's what I always thought. Funny that in their case the fake bag appears first and the right one comes along years later? Isn't it more likely that Umm is the original and Zahng is the rip off?
September 23, 2013 at 8:39 PM #64630
gennyParticipant🙂 Good observation Emil.
September 29, 2013 at 7:06 AM #64631
SimonParticipantI heard the opposite order that if their is a real god the mother it wouldn’t be surprising a false god the mother could also appear
September 30, 2013 at 10:39 PM #64632
EmilyParticipantSimon wrote:
I heard the opposite order that if their is a real god the mother it wouldn't be surprising a false god the mother could also appear
Except that Umm claimed to be the "mother god" first so the order would be wrong.
October 1, 2013 at 4:25 AM #64633
emilParticipantEmily wrote:
Simon wrote:
I heard the opposite order that if their is a real god the mother it wouldn't be surprising a false god the mother could also appear
Except that Umm claimed to be the "mother god" first so the order would be wrong.
I guess I know how they will defend that. But that defense falls flat when you read the details of Ahn's rebuttal to Umm.
October 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM #64634
SimonParticipantOctober 7, 2013 at 4:46 AM #64635
emilParticipant@Simon – I believe the order is relevant. The fake cannot "appear" before the genuine article. The exception is if the fake was aware of the genuine article existing before it's appearance. In that case, it shows that God was unable to control the revelation. The fake controlled the revelation.
October 7, 2013 at 5:29 AM #64636
misspeaceParticipantOne must not acknowledge that there is a REAL Louis Vuitton bag at all. There is no real, so there is no fake. If you acknowledge or even a allow the slightest possibility that there is a real god the mother, you are already defeated.
October 7, 2013 at 6:35 PM #64637
SimonParticipantthe order is not important if their argument there is a real God the Mother were true the real one would have appeared first no matter what order they revealed themselves.
October 8, 2013 at 5:00 AM #64638
emilParticipantSimon wrote:
the order is not important if their argument there is a real God the Mother were true the real one would have appeared first no matter what order they revealed themselves.
I do not understand what you are saying. How do you differentiate between who "appeared first" and who "revealed themselves" first?
October 8, 2013 at 6:57 AM #64639
SimonParticipantLets look at another thing their were false christs before jesus
October 8, 2013 at 10:05 AM #64640
emilParticipantSimon wrote:
Lets look at another thing their were false christs before jesus
Are you alluding to Acts 5?
October 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM #64641
SimonParticipantNo I am aluding to history in general
October 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM #64642
OmerParticipantRegardless of the order, would it be fair to say "there is no mother god"?
October 8, 2013 at 6:53 PM #64643
SimonParticipantwell of course there is no mother God only one God who transcends gender that we call Father
October 9, 2013 at 5:00 AM #64644October 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM #64645
SimonParticipantSimon of Peraea
October 10, 2013 at 6:23 AM #64646
emilParticipant^ Never heard of him. Any links or a scripture quote?
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