The WMSCOG's interpretation of Romans 5:14 debunked by Ahnsahnghong

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  • #7415
    serg
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    The WMSCOG use Romans 5:14 to explain about "2nd coming christ" Ahnsahnhong. This is an important verse they use in some studies in which they try to prove that Ahnsahnghong is the 2nd coming christ. Let's take a look at what the verse says in the NIV, which is the version they use. Then, we will compare it to another bible version for more clarity. And finally, we will see Ahnsahnghong's explanation of the verse.

    (NIV) "Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come."

    Now in this version (NIV) it seems to be saying that, there is one who is coming. (The WMSCOG interpretation – The one to come in this verse, has yet to come.) Implying it is not about Jesus Christ. This version makes it seem like the one coming in the pattern of Adam has yet to come. However, It only seems that way, if we ignore the context. If we actually read the context (Romans 5:5-21) Paul explains that Jesus Christ was the one who was to come

    Now let's read this in the (KJV)

    "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."

    It is much clearer in this version, because it seems to say that He once was the one to come, however, He already came. Which goes along with how Paul in the context, was actually explaining about Jesus Christ and not about a 2nd coming christ. Taking Rom. 5:14 out of context in the KJV doesn't seem to mean that the "one to come" is coming like in the NIV, but that he already came. We can see here that out of context, the KJV is clearer. However, we shouldn't be taking verses out of context anyway. Wonder why WMSCOG like the NIV better? It's because it's easier to misinterpret. Which is exactly what they did with this verse. This comes to show, that we should read the whole context before coming to conclusions regardless of bible version.

    It is also important to note, what Ahnsahnghong himself said about this verse. Here's what he said exactly –

    Here are his exact words from the book "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Gospel" Ch. 6 "The Man of the Earth and the Man from Heaven" Pg. 33

    "The bible says that Adam, the progenitor of the human race, is a pattern of the one to come (Rom. 5:14). Actually, however, he became the oppisite of Jesus who came later. In other words, through one man, Adam many came to die and through one man, Jesus, many came to live (Rom. 5:12-21)"

    So Ahnsahnghong explained that Jesus was the one to come in Rom. 5:14. So Ahn actually read the context in this, then explained. Unlike the WMSCOG who instead take the verse out of context then insist that this verse is concerning the 2nd coming christ. But wait, Ahn basically debunked the WMSCOG's interpretation of Romans 5:14. So not only did the WMSCOG misinterpret the verse because they took it out of context, but also they explained it differently then thier own claimed god. In conclusion, "the one to come" is actually Jesus, and the WMSCOG claim that the one to come in Rom. 5:14 is Ahn. Yet Ahn explains the verse is about Jesus who already came. Um yea, yet another contradiction to add to the list.

  • #63519

    emil
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    @Renita – This link explains it rather well.

    #63520

    Love'n Honey
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    I took the time to ignore that link. I've read enough explanations on the matter.

    #63521

    emil
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    @Renita – It was not my intention to convince you what the Trinity is. I was trying to answer your point about what is the common Christian belief since I think you meant that common Christian belief regarding the Trinity is the same as that of the wmscog.

    #63522

    serg
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    somehow this post led to the trinity lol

    #63523

    God my love
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    What WMSCOG is doing is mention in Bible as below:

    Jere 5:30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

    Jere 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

    Jere 5:13 And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.

    Jere 5:14 Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

    <font face=””><font size=”2″>Eze 9:6</font> Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.</font>

    <font face=””>Mica 3:9 Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.</font>

    <font face=””>Mica 3:10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.</font>

    <font face=””>Mica 3:11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.</font>

    <font face=””>Mica 3:12 Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest. </font>

    <font face=””><font face=””><font size=”2″>Duet 18:22</font> When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.  </font></font>

    <font face=””> Now we can judge WMSCOG and their Activities, their Behaviour and their Thoughts.</font>

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