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The WMSCOG insist that the bride in Revelations 22:17 is also giving the water of life so therefore she is God becuase only God has authority to give life. Also in order to receieve enternal life we MUST come to both the Spirit AND the bride, because according to them, BOTH are giving life. Well let's find out if their claim is actually true and is biblical.
17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.
Where does it say the bride is actually giving the water of life and has the same authority as God? Notice how it doesn't really say that. They only twist words around to make it sound like it says that. Just because the Spirit and the bride are saying "Come!" Does not imply that the bride is giving life along with the Spirit. If that were true, then will the WMSCOG also insist that the one who hears and says "Come!" is also God? That one is also saying "Come!" just like the bride is.
Jesus said in John 4:14- "but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life." So who is giving the water of life? It is Jesus Christ. Nowhere in the bible does it say that the bride is actually giving the water of life. If the WMSCOG say we MUST come to both the Spirit AND the bride to recieve life because of what it says in Rev. 22:17. Then they must also say we MUST come to the Spirit, bride, AND who ever hears so that we may recieve life. All are saying "Come!" Are they not?
It is Jesus that gives the water of life. Which means, to recieve it, we MUST go to Him and Him only. It is un biblical to say that the bride gives life. Jesus Christ said He is the Truth the way and the life. To go to someone else for life is un biblical. Also it is going against Christ's words. The WMSCOG claim Ahnsahnghong and Zahng Gil-Jah are the Spirit and the bride in Rev. 22 and are giving the water of life. So is their claim true? No it isn't. Is it biblical? Nope. The source and the giver of the water of life is Jesus Christ. Now is that true and biblical? Yes.
Wait a minute, the WMSCOG say that they go by what the bible says. And what does the bible say of who is the giver of the water of life? The bible says Jesus is the giver of life. So, does the WMSCOG actually go by what the bible says in this case? No. They say they keep the Sabbath and passover because Jesus Himself kept them, but then how come they don't come to Jesus for life? He Himself said we should. To claim that someone else is giving life other then Jesus Christ is false and un biblical.
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@serg it is good that you started this thread. I was going to start one about this today myself because those guys put words in my mouth in another thread that has become too unwieldy. So here's something from me.The WMSCOG claims that this verse proves Zahng is God because only God can give us living waters. Let us examine this passage closely.
Rev 22:17 – The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.
This verse says that the Sprit, the bride and the one who hears are inviting to come. If we say that only God can give living waters then one must wonder how the person who hears is also calling. If we argue that the caller is not necessarily the giver, then that makes the bride's role ambiguous. This book is in the category of apocalyptic literature which is always hard to interpret because of a vast amount of symbolism. It is worth truning to other scriptures which talk about the same thing more clearly. serg already provided us with Jn 4:14
Jn 4:14 – but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
The water that Jesus gives us, wells up within us as a spring.
Jn 7:37-39 – On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” 39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.
Now this makes it much clearer. The water that Jesus is talking about is the Holy Spirit. Jesus gives us the Holy Spirit. This living water overflows out from us. That is why, all believers have the ability to say "come", inviting people to receive the living water of the Holy Spirit that flows out from us. That is how, we too can lay hands on others and allow God to pour the Holy Spirit on to them.
It is clear that the living water is the Holy Spirit. Not only God, but every believer can invite others to receive the same Holy Spirit.
What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
There is NOTHING new under the sun. WMSCOG isn’t the only church with a mother god. As some of us know the moonies have one as well as the Mormons. There is even a religion in India that also worships a mother. So for the church to claim “mother” is the mystery of the bible=NEW TEACHING. Zhang was never worshipped by the Jewish people, she was never worshipped by Jesus (nor even directly mentioned by Jesus)…so why on God’s green earth is anyone following this new teaching?
To add to what Disturbed said, goddess worship is the highlight of most pagan religions including Babylon.
Chandler in da house yall !! Oooo look, Koreans protesting. I can't read it but they're protesting something. I wonder wut it could be.
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Let's look at what Ahn's interpretation of Rev 22:17 was. This is directly from his book "Problems with New Jerusalem…" which can be found in English here. Excerpts are from Chapter 16 She Claims To Be The Only Bride.
It is written that "the Spirit and the bride say" (Rev. 22:17). It is true that the bride here is the same bride found in Revelation 21:9-10. Since it is written, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb," the wife of the Lamb is the saints.
compare
[Rev. 19:7-8; reference the Bible] with
[Rev. 19:7-8; reference the Common English Bible]
Therefore, just as the prophecy of the bride, the bride stands for the New Jerusalem in Heaven and the New Jerusalem stands for the 144,000 saints.
The 144,000 saints are all brides and the bridegroom is the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is spoken of also as the Tabernacle of God (reference Rev. 21:3) and this tabernacle was prepared by the Lord 1,900 years ago (reference Heb. 8:1-2).
Ahn did not believe that the bride in Revelation 22:17 was an actual woman, but the 144,000 saints. Yet the wms teaches the same thing that Um taught and Ahn clearly disagreed.
Good one Emily. I wonder whether our friends will dare to post a rebuttal to your post.
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