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This will always get under my skin. Since when does this group, who supposedly has the truth, get to choose who gets to be saved and who doesn't? This is one of the biggest indicators of just how big of a scam this group is. Where are the handicapped individuals? Where are the homeless or the down and out? I have spoken with one person who lost his job because of the time demands placed on him by this cult and then he was told to get a job. When he did not get a job soon enough to suit this group the deacon threw him out and instructed other members not to associate with this man. This man did talk to two of his friends briefly and they asked him if he had done what the deacon instructed? According to the actions of this group this man could not hear their truth or be associated with this group until he had a job. My younger brother is handicapped. I know the he would not be welcomed by this group. Anyone like me with difficult questions like me are viewed as undesireable. I can not get these folks to even have a real discussion with me. Once I even tried to go into one of their churches only to be turned away at the door. (Which by the way had a security camera at the door. Creepy) Their truth is not open to me. I cannot buy their books or log into many parts of their website. To log into many parts of this cults website you must be a member, have what's called a life number, and also have a password. You must have a password to learn the truth? When I found out about this life number a cold chill went down my spine. I was very creeped out. When was the last time in history people were numbered by a group? Try World War Two. According to this group they have the Book of Life which is a computer data base where people are listed and numbered. I'm creeped out again just talking about it. I am written in the Lambs Book of Life and never have I felt creeped out by it or felt like I am just a number.
In the epistle of James it speaks to the idea of keeping the truth away from some and open to others. James 2 My brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality. For if there should come into your assembly a man with gold rings, in fine apparel, and there should also come in a poor man in filthy clothes, and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, "You sit here in a good place," and say to the poor man, "You stand there," or, "Sit here at my footstool," have you not shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him? But you have dishonored the poor man. Do not the rich oppress you and drag you into the courts? (Just like the WMSCOG has done with the administrators of this website.) Do they not blaspheme that noble name by which you are called? (The New Name Perhaps) If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors.
I will not presume to speak for anyone else on this matter but I'm going to do my best to live up to Gods Word when it comes to this. The example set by the WMSCOG condems it's members by picking and choosing who gets to hear and who is cut off from the truth. I would also call into the light the expectation of members to dress up to a certain standard of affluence but that topic might be better served in a different post altogether.
It those has to do with the area they recruit. And honestly I dont belive that they have handicap members. I have gone to multiple events and studies where all the east cost churches has gathered and I have never seen one. That was one of the reasons why I left the church. they only wanted to preach to white people in the office church of manhattan and people that according to them would please father and mother. That comment really bothered me because it looked like they wanted white people to receive salvation. I am not racist or anything but salvation should be for every kind of person poor rich,black white asian, but they do like to bear white fruits.
It those has to do with the area they recruit. And honestly I dont belive that they have handicap members. I have gone to multiple events and studies where all the east cost churches has gathered and I have never seen one. That was one of the reasons why I left the church. they only wanted to preach to white people in the office church of manhattan and people that according to them would please father and mother. That comment really bothered me because it looked like they wanted white people to receive salvation. I am not racist or anything but salvation should be for every kind of person poor rich,black white asian, but they do like to bear white fruits.
NONE of this seems true:
My church has maybe 7 white members out of 70. Both Deacons I have had are black every person with a duty is black hispanic or korean. And in Wyoming that is VERY disproportionate so how could that possibly be accurate?
We also have preached in the "bad part of town" as often as any rich or affluent part of town.
When I didn't have a Job I was concerened about tithing I was explicitly told don't wory 10% of 0 is 0 I have also heard this told to other members.
<To log into many parts of this cults website you must be a member, have what's called a life number, and also have a password. You must have a password to learn the truth? When I found out about this life number a cold chill went down my spine. I was very creeped out. When was the last time in history people were numbered by a group? Try World War Two.>
About all there is I have found at the login section is sending an email to Mother and listening to New Songs all the truths are in the public area.
As far as numbered by a group that is only logical ANY computer database does this.
Social Security, IRS, MasterCard, VISA,American Express, TransUniom, Bank of America, Exmaingwmscog.com's Forum database(you are number 68 to this website), any form of insurance you may have.
Databases like clearly organized unique strings to track people you are going to have to get over that and not invoke Godwin's law to debunk a church.
NONE of this seems true:
My church has maybe 7 white members out of 70. Both Deacons I have had are black every person with a duty is black hispanic or korean. And in Wyoming that is VERY disproportionate so how could that possibly be accurate?
We also have preached in the "bad part of town" as often as any rich or affluent part of town.
When I didn't have a Job I was concerened about tithing I was explicitly told don't wory 10% of 0 is 0 I have also heard this told to other members.
<To log into many parts of this cults website you must be a member, have what's called a life number, and also have a password. You must have a password to learn the truth? When I found out about this life number a cold chill went down my spine. I was very creeped out. When was the last time in history people were numbered by a group? Try World War Two.>
About all there is I have found at the login section is sending an email to Mother and listening to New Songs all the truths are in the public area.
As far as numbered by a group that is only logical ANY computer database does this.
Social Security, IRS, MasterCard, VISA,American Express, TransUniom, Bank of America, Exmaingwmscog.com's Forum database(you are number 68 to this website), any form of insurance you may have.
Databases like clearly organized unique strings to track people you are going to have to get over that and not invoke Godwin's law to debunk a church.
As far as the life number, there are special features that only members can utilize. One of which being the authorization to write a letter to Mother. What are you going to write to Her? Rude messages about how she's a false prophet & such? Possibly. I know I don't want to receive hate mail so why would she? I have never logged in to read the sermons on WATV or to watch the videos on UCC Space. When I was in SD Zion, the people I invited to Zion were surprised to see how diverse it is. However, in Seattle where most of the population is white, Zion is mostly white. & by mostly I would say 40% where all other groups take up 60%. Because I might have explained this poorly, I will use hypothetical numbers. Out of 10 people, 4 are white, 3 are Korean, 2 are black, & 1 is Mexican. Out of each category, the white category holds the most members. However, the Church is still more diverse than other Chruches I've attended.
As far as the life number, there are special features that only members can utilize. One of which being the authorization to write a letter to Mother. What are you going to write to Her? Rude messages about how she's a false prophet & such? Possibly. I know I don't want to receive hate mail so why would she? I have never logged in to read the sermons on WATV or to watch the videos on UCC Space. When I was in SD Zion, the people I invited to Zion were surprised to see how diverse it is. However, in Seattle where most of the population is white, Zion is mostly white. & by mostly I would say 40% where all other groups take up 60%. Because I might have explained this poorly, I will use hypothetical numbers. Out of 10 people, 4 are white, 3 are Korean, 2 are black, & 1 is Mexican. Out of each category, the white category holds the most members. However, the Church is still more diverse than other Chruches I've attended.
Are you sure you aren't confusing WMC and LDS?
Are you sure you aren't confusing WMC and LDS?
My general area? you have never been to wyoming I am guessing.
Joshua wrote:
No confusion.
Can you give an example?
My general area? you have never been to wyoming I am guessing.
Joshua wrote:
No confusion.
Can you give an example?
I want to know why they only go "preaching" in areas where there are a lot of young people. Preferably where they are spending money. If the WMSCOG is so concerned about saving people from hell, why aren't they preaching to people in the hospital. Like the really sick ones that are circling the drain as they say. But I guess that according to the WMS, those poor people can't be saved because they can't keep the feasts while they are admitted to the hospital right? I guess those people wouldn't count as a "talent" because they can't tithe from their beds in the intensive care unit or hospice right?
I want to know why they only go "preaching" in areas where there are a lot of young people. Preferably where they are spending money. If the WMSCOG is so concerned about saving people from hell, why aren't they preaching to people in the hospital. Like the really sick ones that are circling the drain as they say. But I guess that according to the WMS, those poor people can't be saved because they can't keep the feasts while they are admitted to the hospital right? I guess those people wouldn't count as a "talent" because they can't tithe from their beds in the intensive care unit or hospice right?
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