Tagged: contradictions, false christ, Former Members, root of david, wmscog
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- May 23, 2013 at 8:46 PM#7339adminParticipant
This comment was originally left on Missionary Ron Ramos Explains Why He Left the WMSCOG After 12 Years – A Former Member's Story
The True WMSCOG writes:
http://www.thetruewmscog.com/hassan-and-the-wmscog/
Come see the discrepancies in Hassan's and Ron's statements.
- June 5, 2013 at 2:28 AM #61730
144000ParticipantBut FTOS is right.
Their stories don't match the truth, and they are an extremely confused and delisional minority whom had other issues and crisis of faith as FTOS and 1004 pointed out.
In addition to us all who testify to the truth saying that their stories never actually happened in the manner they are describing.
June 5, 2013 at 2:30 AM #27620
fromtheothersideParticipantyou guys are a fun bunch. I could just go off on u all for days! Where's stained? lolz! I heard he gave a stainy to Emil! Stained stop staining on other members! Or atleast promise to dry clean their clothes after you leave them with a stainy! Emil you aren't going to start staining your self too are you?
June 5, 2013 at 2:30 AM #61731
fromtheothersideParticipantyou guys are a fun bunch. I could just go off on u all for days! Where's stained? lolz! I heard he gave a stainy to Emil! Stained stop staining on other members! Or atleast promise to dry clean their clothes after you leave them with a stainy! Emil you aren't going to start staining your self too are you?
June 5, 2013 at 2:36 AM #27622
prtyeyesParticipant144000 wrote:
But FTOS is right.
Their stories don't match the truth, and they are an extremely confused and delisional minority whom had other issues and crisis of faith as FTOS and 1004 pointed out.
In addition to us all who testify to the truth saying that their stories never actually happened in the manner they are describing.
FTOS is not right! You THINK you testify to the "truth". You don't know any of these people personally, so you can't say what they experienced., where you there when they went through it? …NO! You're not GOD! and the ONE TRUE GOD is neither you fake ass Korean "heavenly mother" nor "father"
June 5, 2013 at 2:36 AM #61732
prtyeyesParticipant144000 wrote:
But FTOS is right.
Their stories don't match the truth, and they are an extremely confused and delisional minority whom had other issues and crisis of faith as FTOS and 1004 pointed out.
In addition to us all who testify to the truth saying that their stories never actually happened in the manner they are describing.
FTOS is not right! You THINK you testify to the "truth". You don't know any of these people personally, so you can't say what they experienced., where you there when they went through it? …NO! You're not GOD! and the ONE TRUE GOD is neither you fake ass Korean "heavenly mother" nor "father"
June 5, 2013 at 2:45 AM #27623
144000ParticipantActually I was there for 3/4 of the history behind that story.
I did see him personally and knew black members before me personally.
FTOS is right.
June 5, 2013 at 2:45 AM #61733
144000ParticipantActually I was there for 3/4 of the history behind that story.
I did see him personally and knew black members before me personally.
FTOS is right.
June 5, 2013 at 2:57 AM #27624
gennyParticipant144000 wrote:
Sorry but the bible itself testifies to how high the flood waters were and it wasn't high enough to cover all the earth.
Fagile stone formations testify there were no flood waters.
The ecosystem testifies that there was no flood (every vegetation and seed on earth would be wiped out)
The sons were divided according to their clans nations and languages, read it.
Archeology testifies that nations and peoples survived the flood.
And finally, if you don't already understand how ridiculous your example is (by the way your example claims 3 million out of 8 one hundred years faster than Jacob got 600,000 out of 70) then I'm done here.
This is not the place to debate the flood (you could start a new thread if you want), but the example estimate is meant to show that it is possible to increase a population more rapidly than you thought. You don't need to add to the Bible (which you seem to like to do) to make it work.
I hope you didn't overlook my comments about how this relates to Ron.
And do you have anything to say about the other 'mistakes' I listed?
June 5, 2013 at 2:57 AM #61734
gennyParticipant144000 wrote:
Sorry but the bible itself testifies to how high the flood waters were and it wasn't high enough to cover all the earth.
Fagile stone formations testify there were no flood waters.
The ecosystem testifies that there was no flood (every vegetation and seed on earth would be wiped out)
The sons were divided according to their clans nations and languages, read it.
Archeology testifies that nations and peoples survived the flood.
And finally, if you don't already understand how ridiculous your example is (by the way your example claims 3 million out of 8 one hundred years faster than Jacob got 600,000 out of 70) then I'm done here.
This is not the place to debate the flood (you could start a new thread if you want), but the example estimate is meant to show that it is possible to increase a population more rapidly than you thought. You don't need to add to the Bible (which you seem to like to do) to make it work.
I hope you didn't overlook my comments about how this relates to Ron.
And do you have anything to say about the other 'mistakes' I listed?
June 5, 2013 at 2:57 AM #27625
prtyeyesParticipant144000 wrote:
Actually I was there for 3/4 of the history behind that story.
I did see him personally and knew black members before me personally.
FTOS is right.
I'm not talking about Ron. I'm speaking of the former members who come here and tell their stories, yet you guys call them delusional or liars. If in any way your fake ass "heavenly mother" is knowingly decieving innocent people and not just a pawn in this evil scheme, I pray the ONE TRUE GOD has no mercy on her soul!
June 5, 2013 at 2:57 AM #61735
prtyeyesParticipant144000 wrote:
Actually I was there for 3/4 of the history behind that story.
I did see him personally and knew black members before me personally.
FTOS is right.
I'm not talking about Ron. I'm speaking of the former members who come here and tell their stories, yet you guys call them delusional or liars. If in any way your fake ass "heavenly mother" is knowingly decieving innocent people and not just a pawn in this evil scheme, I pray the ONE TRUE GOD has no mercy on her soul!
June 5, 2013 at 4:06 AM #61736
emilParticipant144000 wrote:
The nephilim existed before the flood, genesis chapter 6.
Then the flood happened.
Then the giants still existed, even though no one in Noah's family was a giant.
You have ignored a logical possibility. Who were the nephilim? They were the children of human mothers and their fathers were not human. This kind of thing seems to have been an ongoing thing in that era if you read Gen 6 itself. Why do you exclude the possibility that such impregnation continued after the flood? Just as the fathers of the nephilim came to the earth to mate with human mothers before the flood, they also came after the flood.
June 5, 2013 at 4:06 AM #27627
emilParticipant144000 wrote:
The nephilim existed before the flood, genesis chapter 6.
Then the flood happened.
Then the giants still existed, even though no one in Noah's family was a giant.
You have ignored a logical possibility. Who were the nephilim? They were the children of human mothers and their fathers were not human. This kind of thing seems to have been an ongoing thing in that era if you read Gen 6 itself. Why do you exclude the possibility that such impregnation continued after the flood? Just as the fathers of the nephilim came to the earth to mate with human mothers before the flood, they also came after the flood.
June 5, 2013 at 4:17 AM #61737
emilParticipant1004, 144000 and fromtheotherside I repeat again. If Ron is such a liar and you guys can prove it, please show all your members by suing him and winning like you have won all your other libel cases so far. Don't waste time discussing his lies with all of us evil people. Just act.
As for discussion, let us continue to debate your teachings.
June 5, 2013 at 4:17 AM #27630
emilParticipant1004, 144000 and fromtheotherside I repeat again. If Ron is such a liar and you guys can prove it, please show all your members by suing him and winning like you have won all your other libel cases so far. Don't waste time discussing his lies with all of us evil people. Just act.
As for discussion, let us continue to debate your teachings.
June 5, 2013 at 5:26 AM #61738
SimonParticipantThis is silly the true wmscog lied about what Ron said instead of refuting what he actually said, think that let’s us ignore the argument seeing as it is what is called a straw man fallacy therefore invalid and irrelevant
June 5, 2013 at 5:26 AM #27642
SimonParticipantThis is silly the true wmscog lied about what Ron said instead of refuting what he actually said, think that let’s us ignore the argument seeing as it is what is called a straw man fallacy therefore invalid and irrelevant
June 5, 2013 at 6:27 AM #27668
emilParticipantSimon wrote:
This is silly the true wmscog lied about what Ron said instead of refuting what he actually said, think that let's us ignore the argument seeing as it is what is called a straw man fallacy therefore invalid and irrelevant
Simon would you mind elaborating? I haven't heard Ron's video nor have I heard True's.
June 5, 2013 at 6:27 AM #61739
emilParticipantSimon wrote:
This is silly the true wmscog lied about what Ron said instead of refuting what he actually said, think that let's us ignore the argument seeing as it is what is called a straw man fallacy therefore invalid and irrelevant
Simon would you mind elaborating? I haven't heard Ron's video nor have I heard True's.
June 5, 2013 at 6:32 AM #27669
SimonParticipantThe same idea of removing context and shuffling statements around they do with everything else. I’ve not watched either in a while
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