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Renita, I just got your message through my blog. I hope any issues you are having with the forum here have cleared up.
Here is the question you wanted me to start a new topic on, but you might need to explain it a little more:
How is Ahnsahnghong the Root and Offspring of David. Jesus was Jewish, but Ahn was Korean.
Read Matthew 1 (which shows Jesus' genealogy) and Rev. 22:16, "I, Jesus, … am the Root and the Offspring of David…"
loocpoc wrote:
shimon wrote:
WMC doesn't teach Korea as an independent nation merely that there were not Jews in Korea nor a Jewish bloodline.
From what I remember, they teach that Korea was called the "hermit" kingdom. They incorrectly teach that jews were not in Korea. Some of the original traders from the Americas to the Orient were of Jewish decent. The most sizeable community did not come forth right until after the Korean war and Seoul has a sizeable Jewish community. Also many Koreans are flocking to Judaism.
From a blog I found:
http://orientem.blogspot.com/2010/06/jews-and-koreans.html
"I've heard it said that Koreans are often instructed, both subtly and openly, that they are the second smartest, cleverest, most brilliant, most astute people, after the Jews, of course. They may be right, for what it's worth. I've posted before about the country's "estimated average IQ of 106," making it "second only to tiny Hong Kong" — <font color="#5588aa">Smart Koreans</font> — but also about the "pet theory of mine, that due to homogeneity there a far fewer folks in Korea at the 'extremes tails of the normal curve'" — <font color="#5588aa">Average Koreans</font>. (As for Jews, "it is currently accepted that the mean is somewhere in the range of 107 to 115, with 110 being a plausible compromise" — <font color="#5588aa">Charles Murray's Jewish Genius</font>.)"
Was there a genuine Israelite bloodline in Korea in 1918?
Trading in Korea isn't producing offspring in Korea nor is a Jewish convert of Israelite lineage
(for some reason ISP is blocking the link)
Yes there does need to be because that is all that would contradict the statement regarding Melchizedeck in the way you are attempting.
loocpoc wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
Maybe there's an imposter.. Lol. JK! According to the study of the Melchizedek, Christ was supposed to be without father or mother. Jesus said, "Who are my brother & sister & mother?" When He said this, He pointed to His disciples explaining that they are His brother & sister & mother. As COG explained to me, only those who believe in God are considered to be family. So, Christ being born without father or mother means Christ must be born of non-believers. As I understand it, Ahnsahnghong's parents were buddhists, non-believers in God. As far as I see it, the race didn't matter, just that He had to be born of non-believing parents. But in the time that Ahnsahnghong was born, there was no way any other nationality could get into to S. Korea. Only koreans lived there so anyone who claimed to fulfill the prophecy of the Melchizedek in S. Korea had to be korean.
But Jesus had parents. Both of whom were known to be devout Jews.
Which is why Jesus was not the Melchizedek.
Paul said there was.a lot to say not that it was.simple so it cannot be one defining trait unless the Hebrews were just that stupid which I doubt
"In the order of Melchizedek" & "The Melichezedek" is that same thing?
Shimon, does your comment still stand, was this before or after cog.
Paul said there was.a lot to say not that it was.simple so it cannot be one defining trait unless the Hebrews were just that stupid which I doubt.
As far as Melchizedek I do believe it applies more complex than bread and wine and not being a levite I thing Paul was trying to explain just who Jesus REALLY was in reality he has no geneology or parents or begining or end of days because Jesus is God.
In the order of Aaron they depended on Aaron for their priesthood, Jesus was priest because of who he was alone by his own divine authority.
ok got it, but how is AHNSANGHONG, the ROOT & OFFSPRING OF DAVID
He isn't
At one point in your life you thought he was, what changed?
I saw the errors in Church of God and the fact he seemed to believe he was just a prophet.
shimon can you please point out those errors so that i can also see what you saw, but most importantly i need to show my family. If you don't want to post it here, please PM me, thanks!
shimon wrote:
As far as Melchizedek I do believe it applies more complex than bread and wine and not being a levite I thing Paul was trying to explain just who Jesus REALLY was in reality he has no geneology or parents or begining or end of days because Jesus is God.
In the order of Aaron they depended on Aaron for their priesthood, Jesus was priest because of who he was alone by his own divine authority.
Shimon,
I completely agree with your interpretation.
SHIMON, I got your PM but I am still lost and without understanding, maybe i can undertand it if you can explain to me, how was it that in the begining you came to believe that Ahnsanghong was the root & offspring of David. Also when they do the study they show you the globe, but i saw the Island of DOKDO, I don't know how to put a link to that here, but if you can go and see what I'm talking about it would help me understand more. By the way people do live on that small island it's between korea and japan in the middle of the sea. Can you please give me your thoughts on that, I would also like to hear from Genny & Joshua and the others, thanks
Simon wrote:
I saw the errors in Church of God and the fact he seemed to believe he was just a prophet.
hello simon
can you share who told you he seemed to believe he was just a prophet. Did he speak to someone or left a letter or something. Why do people believe he was the root and off spring of david did his family mix with the jewish.
Jesus is both the creator and descendant of David
Isaiah 11:1–A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
Matthew 1:2-26–See this text for the lineage of Abraham to David, and David to Jesus.
Matthew 22:41-46–While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42"What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?" 42 "The son of David," they replied. 43 He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him
Lord'? For he says, 44"The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." ' 45If then David calls him `Lord,' how can he be his son?" 46No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.Romans 1:3 — …regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David….
Revelation 5:5
Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals."
Revelation 22:16 — "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
When Jesus declares he is the "Root and Offspring of David," he is exposing two facts: 1) David is descended from Jesus and 2) Jesus is descended from David. How can this be? Jesus, the human, did not exist actually before David, but the spirit of God did. The "Root" is the Spirit of God. The Spirit that spoke the worlds into existence out of nothing. The same Spirit that selected David as king and then blessed his kingdom. It was that Spirit which overshadowed Mary to become the father of Jesus. The Spirit of God then took on the identity of Jesus, by living in him. Jesus' human ancestry is traced back to David and Abraham. His bloodline comes directly from God. Jesus is the Spirit of God from the Old Testament who became a man in the New Testament, thereby the "Root and Offspring of David"
Hal wrote:
Depends upon which way you go.. Jesus was not the blood of David through Solomon but through Nathan and that would negate his claim to being the messiah…
lol only one way to go!
Hal wrote:
KF wrote:
Hal wrote:
Depends upon which way you go.. Jesus was not the blood of David through Solomon but through Nathan and that would negate his claim to being the messiah…
lol only one way to go!
Well the conflicts of jesus lineage negate each otherso depending upon which way of lineage you go, it cancels out Jesus.. and ahn and zhang..
Please show me, what your talking about!
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