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So God would return and be baptized into the SDA church? Doesn't make sense. Watch this video:
Thanks for posting this Emily. This actually will help me with some outreach I'm doing right now.
Well why would it have to make sense to you Emily, not trying to be rude, but just cuz man says SDA is a not main stream church doesn't mean God feels the same way about it. And if your talking about false prophets, all churches have em. So here's a great question i would like to get answers from all of you. If God were to come where do you think he would start from? If he were to come. Plz no quips or smart answers this is serious. Also no "i don't believe he will come" or answers without a real answer. you have to name a church or a group, nothing broad like christian, or protestant, it has to be more exact.
fromtheotherside wrote:
Well why would it have to make sense to you Emily, not trying to be rude, but just cuz man says SDA is a not main stream church doesn't mean God feels the same way about it. And if your talking about false prophets, all churches have em. So here's a great question i would like to get answers from all of you. If God were to come where do you think he would start from? If he were to come. Plz no quips or smart answers this is serious. Also no "i don't believe he will come" or answers without a real answer. you have to name a church or a group, nothing broad like christian, or protestant, it has to be more exact.
FTO i kinda agree with you on the first point of view but regarding your question its like asking what if there is no planet earth..
fromtheotherside wrote:
If God were to come where do you think he would start from? If he were to come. Plz no quips or smart answers this is serious. Also no "i don't believe he will come" or answers without a real answer. you have to name a church or a group, nothing broad like christian, or protestant, it has to be more exact.
Are you talking about the second coming of Christ? Or just God visiting the earth in general?
fromtheotherside wrote:
Well why would it have to make sense to you Emily, not trying to be rude, but just cuz man says SDA is a not main stream church doesn't mean God feels the same way about it. And if your talking about false prophets, all churches have em. So here's a great question i would like to get answers from all of you. If God were to come where do you think he would start from? If he were to come. Plz no quips or smart answers this is serious. Also no "i don't believe he will come" or answers without a real answer. you have to name a church or a group, nothing broad like christian, or protestant, it has to be more exact.
There really is no question here. The Bible tells us that he will be seen by all people. Everyone will confess with their toungs that He is Lord. I'm not sure where the idea that He would come to one group came from but it is flawed thinking when heald up to the Word of God.
fromtheotherside wrote:
Well why would it have to make sense to you Emily, not trying to be rude, but just cuz man says SDA is a not main stream church doesn't mean God feels the same way about it. And if your talking about false prophets, all churches have em. So here's a great question i would like to get answers from all of you. If God were to come where do you think he would start from? If he were to come. Plz no quips or smart answers this is serious. Also no "i don't believe he will come" or answers without a real answer. you have to name a church or a group, nothing broad like christian, or protestant, it has to be more exact.
Your question presumes that God has to come in a church thus implying that the group or church is greater than God. Why does he have to come in a church? The bible clearly describes in Mt 24 the events of the second coming. This is also echoed in Acts 1:11.
Try to understand that the bible tells us that the second coming is going to be a publicly visible event and not some secret. The bible also warns us that before this there will be false prophets claiming to be messiahs. This surely does not refer to the Catholic church or any of the mainstrean protestant churches but rather to the one who claims to be God. In this way, doesn't the wmscog seem to be a sign of the end times.
How is like a thief in the night public?
"like a thief in the night" refers to the second coming being unexpected and sudden. There is a ton more scripture that speaks to it being a very public affair, and that every single person on the earth will know it's happening.
fromtheotherside wrote:
Well why would it have to make sense to you Emily, not trying to be rude, but just cuz man says SDA is a not main stream church doesn't mean God feels the same way about it. And if your talking about false prophets, all churches have em. So here's a great question i would like to get answers from all of you. If God were to come where do you think he would start from? If he were to come. Plz no quips or smart answers this is serious. Also no "i don't believe he will come" or answers without a real answer. you have to name a church or a group, nothing broad like christian, or protestant, it has to be more exact.
Why are you even thinking of the EXACT place where He will come? Are you trying to judge what God would do? Nobody has the right to presume what He will do because only He knows where and when. But here's a hint: Read Revelation 1:7 "Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him." See that word EVERY EYE? Assuming that you do know basic English, that means that EVERYBODY will know that He has come. They even included "those who pierced him" which removes the exemptions and since not everyone DID know when Ahnsanghong came and more than half the population DIED not knowing he even EXIST, that pretty much puts your Ahn outside the criteria.
Correct answer, Cephas’ Brother.
Elievalkyrie wrote:
fromtheotherside wrote:
Well why would it have to make sense to you Emily, not trying to be rude, but just cuz man says SDA is a not main stream church doesn't mean God feels the same way about it. And if your talking about false prophets, all churches have em. So here's a great question i would like to get answers from all of you. If God were to come where do you think he would start from? If he were to come. Plz no quips or smart answers this is serious. Also no "i don't believe he will come" or answers without a real answer. you have to name a church or a group, nothing broad like christian, or protestant, it has to be more exact.
Why are you even thinking of the EXACT place where He will come? Are you trying to judge what God would do? Nobody has the right to presume what He will do because only He knows where and when. But here's a hint: Read Revelation 1:7 "Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him." See that word EVERY EYE? Assuming that you do know basic English, that means that EVERYBODY will know that He has come. They even included "those who pierced him" which removes the exemptions and since not everyone DID know when Ahnsanghong came and more than half the population DIED not knowing he even EXIST, that pretty much puts your Ahn outside the criteria.
Every eye was prophesied to see at his first coming too
That verse doesn't say that people will know who the 2CC is, it just says they will see Him. Plenty of people saw Jesus but didn't recognize Him as the Messaih. Also, with the world being a sphere, there's no way everyone would see him at the same exact time. But everyone will see Him because the Scripture says so. Plus, there were plenty of people who died before Jesus came be He went to them and preached to them. I think when you die, everything will be plain. Either you will see the true God or you will see nothing because there is no God. What ever the truth is, you will see it when you die. So, the fact that people died before getting to "know" Jesus or ASH wouldn't matter because they will see God in their death. Strictly my opinion, no Scriptual backup.
My opinion on FTOS's question "If God were to come, where do you think He would start from?" I think He would start from scratch because there are so many corrupted churches out here. Jesus started from scratch. There wasn't a Christian church when He started preaching. It would make sense to me that the 2CC would also start from scratch.
Simon wrote:
Every eye was prophesied to see at his first coming too
Which verse says that?
genny wrote:
Simon wrote:
Every eye was prophesied to see at his first coming too
Which verse says that?
John 1:2 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?”
He said, “I am not.”
“Are you the Prophet?”
He answered, “No.”
22 Finally they said, “Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?”
23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, “I am the voice of one calling in the desert, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’”
Here is the prophecy:
Isaiah 40:3 A voice of one calling:
“In the desert prepare
the way for the Lord;
make straight in the wilderness
a highway for our God.
4 Every valley shall be raised up,
every mountain and hill made low;
the rough ground shall become level,
the rugged places a plain.
5 And the glory of the Lord will be revealed,
and all mankind together will see it.
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”
Then I guess the thing that we should all talk about is, is there a second coming and is it different from the day of Judgement.. So who believes there is a second coming and who believes there isn't but just the judgement? Like simon mentioned there are a lot of other verses too that describe the first coming to be a "public affair". For all mankind together will see it. It doesn't state that all mankind must mean those alive at the time of Jesus. It could be talking about the future after jesus was crucified. Also I would like to point out that just as it says we will see god in all his glory when he comes it states for his first coming for Jesus "and the glory of the lord will be revealed" Here it says that too about Jesus. So does it mean coming in his glory means as a spirit as God in his spiritual form? Jesus didn't come like that he came as a man in the flesh but it say the glory of the lord will be revealed.
Also I don't think "everyone" or "all" means the whole world. Because that means as Joshua stated "everyone will confess with their tongues he is the Lord" Does that mean the will all be saved, the whole world no one will go to hell? because in the bible it says "whoever confesses with their lips that chirst is the saviour will be saved."
So all eyes will see doesn't nessecerally mean "all" or the "whole" world.
Simon wrote:
4 Every valley shall be raised up,
every mountain and hill made low;
the rough ground shall become level,
the rugged places a plain.
5 And the glory of the Lord will be revealed,
and all mankind together will see it.
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”
This does not specifically or exactly say that ALL the people will see the Messiah but only the glory of the Lord which can refer to verse 4. Do you anything more specific? While Revelation 1:7 "Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him" is very specific on whom they are talking about.
renita.payno wrote:
That verse doesn't say that people will know who the 2CC is, it just says they will see Him.
Exactly! Because there is no second Jesus Christ, only the second coming of Jesus Christ. Saying that there is a second Jesus implies that the first Jesus did not succeed in His purpose on his first coming. What was His purpose? It is stated plainly in His name Jesus = Savior.
Plenty of people saw Jesus but didn't recognize Him as the Messaih. Also, with the world being a sphere, there's no way everyone would see him at the same exact time. But everyone will see Him because the Scripture says so. Plus, there were plenty of people who died before Jesus came be He went to them and preached to them. I think when you die, everything will be plain. Either you will see the true God or you will see nothing because there is no God.
This statement of yours makes me think that you are still unsure of God's existence or that you don't believe in Hell.
What ever the truth is, you will see it when you die.
I am sure of the truth and am seeing it before I die, I hope that you will get the chance to know it also.
So, the fact that people died before getting to "know" Jesus or ASH wouldn't matter because they will see God in their death. Strictly my opinion, no Scriptual backup.
My opinion on FTOS's question "If God were to come, where do you think He would start from?" I think He would start from scratch because there are so many corrupted churches out here. Jesus started from scratch. There wasn't a Christian church when He started preaching. It would make sense to me that the 2CC would also start from scratch.
It could mean the coming of Christ if the glory of the Lord is revealed when He comes in flesh. Some people think this is being fulfilled through "natural" disasters. Some people say the glory of the Lord is Judgement day. Assuming the glory of the Lord isn't Christ coming in flesh then that verse doesn't mean everyone will see the Messaih.
There are a lot of verses that imply everyone will go to heaven while there are verses that imply everyone will go to hell. Then there are verses that say some will be saved and some won't. OAN… where's Hal?
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