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This just in guys! I chatted with my brother thru facebook and I gave him a site that says something about "Emperor Constantine" not abolishing the Sabbath day and that Christians started worshipping in Sundays 288 years even before Constantine was born. (http://www.trektorome.com/did-constantine-abolish-the-sabbath-in-321-a-d/)
This is his UNBELIEVABLE REPLY: It doesn't matter who did it, the important thing was that someone did abolish it thus fulfilling the prophecy in the Bible. Believe the Bible, not the people that spread the lies" It was really, really at the tip of my tongue to ask him if he was an idiot, but I held it in since I've read that I couldn't convince him that way. But really, can't he get anymore stupidier in joining that stupid cult?
So I asked him (as uninsulting as I could), But how did you know that Constantine did it? What is your proof that it is not a lie? Do you have a book or something that confirms it? He STUPIDLY replied again, "DUH! It's in the Bible, it's a prophecy, you can't really know who would do it. That's why its called a prophecy!"
I think I just pulled most of my hairs off out of exasperation. If the situation wasn't so funny, I would have cried myself to death!!
To test your love and belief in god and what he said.
renita.payno wrote:
To test your love and belief in god and what he said.
So it's like God saying "I'm going to keep changing my phone number so I know who really loves me"? And people who keep trying to call the old phone number are out of luck?
(I like the phone number analogy, Simon. ๐
there's usually a recording that tells you the number has been changed, disconnected, or you'll get a busy signal. If God doesn't give me his new phone number, I can't call him. Especialy if it's private Hmm maybe he has an email address.
Its more like he calls you with the new number saying, “hey kid. This is my new number. Save it.” Some will and some won’t.
renita.payno wrote:
Its more like he calls you with the new number saying, "hey kid. This is my new number. Save it." Some will and some won't.
So how does an ordinary person know if it's God calling with His new number or some prank or scammer hoping to 'redirect' your future calls to God?
Because god told you he would call you with a new number. But so someone scammer won't find out the number and use it for himself, god encodes the new number. He might say the new number is like a kelvin to a monkey. So, when someone calls you from (555)555-1234, you'll know its god. But only god could be able to explain what a kelvin to a monkey is. =)
Kim wrote:
there's usually a recording that tells you the number has been changed, disconnected, or you'll get a busy signal. If God doesn't give me his new phone number, I can't call him. Especialy if it's private Hmm maybe he has an email address.
Zhang does ๐
renita.payno wrote:
Because god told you he would call you with a new number. But so someone scammer won't find out the number and use it for himself, god encodes the new number. He might say the new number is like a kelvin to a monkey. So, when someone calls you from (555)555-1234, you'll know its god. But only god could be able to explain what a kelvin to a monkey is. =)
Ah, but if you don't know what a kelvin to a monkey is to check if it's the right code, then how do you know if it's God explaining it or the scammer making it up to gain your trust?
As an example, a family member got a phone call from "Microsoft" claiming that her computer had problems and that they were going to help her fix them. She wondered how she could trust if they were really from Microsoft, so they tell her to run a particular test on her computer. She runs the program code they give her which then produces a list of 'errors' on her computer. Then they ask her if the error codes are such-and-such (remember, still over the phone), and they are! That convinces my family member that these people are truly trustworthy, and she gives them her credit card number so they can fix her computer remotely for her. (Do I even need to say that it was a scam?)
Well, among other things, god can show you other things that will prove it. There are certain things microsoft can do that a scammer cannot do. God can tell the future for he has already sculpted it. His new number wasn’t the only clue he left. He also described himself as a wibsner wonk and said he will come with snails. Spiritual snails of course.
renita.payno wrote:
The difference is that they teach jehovah, jesus, and ahnsahnghong save you. Technically, we are waiting for jehovah to judge the world because ahnsahnghong is jehovah. But the you cannot call on the name jehovah because god doesn't answer to that name anymore. He answers to ahnsahnghong now, iaw the wmscog.
Actually we're waiting for Yahweh, you know. You have probably been saying [Halleluyah] your whole life whether you're a Christian or not. It means Praise Ya, Ya being the shortened form of Yahweh, the name of the God of the Bible. Answers to ash now ? (OMG) iaw reality.
are we waiting for Yehovah or for Jesus
Stained wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
The difference is that they teach jehovah, jesus, and ahnsahnghong save you. Technically, we are waiting for jehovah to judge the world because ahnsahnghong is jehovah. But the you cannot call on the name jehovah because god doesn't answer to that name anymore. He answers to ahnsahnghong now, iaw the wmscog.
Actually we're waiting for Yahweh, you know. You have probably been saying [Halleluyah] your whole life whether you're a Christian or not. It means Praise Ya, Ya being the shortened form of Yahweh, the name of the God of the Bible. Answers to ash now ? (OMG) iaw reality.
Not news to me..
Simon wrote:
are we waiting for Yehovah or for Jesus
Depends on what you believe, if they are different or the same.
Stained said they are different once
Simon wrote:
It's like a new phone number to them
You're right about that but it's still ridiculous when you consider the Trinity. It's not Burger King, Wendy's and McDonalds where you're calling 3 separate chains. It's more like dialing into Pepsi, where you'll find Crush and Mist in the house. Feel me ?
Stained wrote:
Simon wrote:
It's like a new phone number to them
You're right about that but it's still ridiculous when you consider the Trinity. It's not Burger King, Wendy's and McDonalds where you're calling 3 separate chains. It's more like dialing into Pepsi, where you'll find Crush and Mist in the house. Feel me ?
Yea, that explains Trinity, too. 3 different flavors, 1 soda company. But that's not how Jesus described it. If Jesus is Jehovah, then why did He say, "Until now you have not asked in my name"? The people have been calling on Jehovah for many years but here He's talking about the name "Jesus". IMO, it looks as though you must dial a new number to reach the same soda company. The WMSCOG kept it going for the "name" of the HS. Either that, or Jesus is NOT Jehovah.
I do like the explanation of the verse "I and the Father are one" meaning they have the same purpose.
renita.payno wrote:
Yea, that explains Trinity, too. 3 different flavors, 1 soda company. But that's not how Jesus described it. If Jesus is Jehovah, then why did He say, "Until now you have not asked in my name"? The people have been calling on Jehovah for many years but here He's talking about the name "Jesus". IMO, it looks as though you must dial a new number to reach the same soda company. The WMSCOG kept it going for the "name" of the HS. Either that, or Jesus is NOT Jehovah.
I do like the explanation of the verse "I and the Father are one" meaning they have the same purpose.
Jesus said we could ask in His name, but He did not say you had to stop using the name Jehovah. So it's more like the soda company got an additional phone line, but the old one still works too?
renita.payno wrote:
Stained wrote:
Simon wrote:
It's like a new phone number to them
You're right about that but it's still ridiculous when you consider the Trinity. It's not Burger King, Wendy's and McDonalds where you're calling 3 separate chains. It's more like dialing into Pepsi, where you'll find Crush and Mist in the house. Feel me ?
Yea, that explains Trinity, too. 3 different flavors, 1 soda company. But that's not how Jesus described it. If Jesus is Jehovah, then why did He say, "Until now you have not asked in my name"? The people have been calling on Jehovah for many years but here He's talking about the name "Jesus". IMO, it looks as though you must dial a new number to reach the same soda company. The WMSCOG kept it going for the "name" of the HS. Either that, or Jesus is NOT Jehovah.
I do like the explanation of the verse "I and the Father are one" meaning they have the same purpose.
That is a good question but then the question is why did Yehovah promise to do stuff himself then send a lackie instead?
Simon wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
Stained wrote:
Simon wrote:
It's like a new phone number to them
You're right about that but it's still ridiculous when you consider the Trinity. It's not Burger King, Wendy's and McDonalds where you're calling 3 separate chains. It's more like dialing into Pepsi, where you'll find Crush and Mist in the house. Feel me ?
Yea, that explains Trinity, too. 3 different flavors, 1 soda company. But that's not how Jesus described it. If Jesus is Jehovah, then why did He say, "Until now you have not asked in my name"? The people have been calling on Jehovah for many years but here He's talking about the name "Jesus". IMO, it looks as though you must dial a new number to reach the same soda company. The WMSCOG kept it going for the "name" of the HS. Either that, or Jesus is NOT Jehovah.
I do like the explanation of the verse "I and the Father are one" meaning they have the same purpose.
That is a good question but then the question is why did Yehovah promise to do stuff himself then send a lackie instead?
Exactly. If He said He would do it, then He will do it. If someone comes and calls Himself Jesus and does what Jehovah promised, then Jesus must be Jehovah. I can see how both ways can be argued. Jesus is Jehovah.. Jesus is not Jehovah. But it could be how I've read here about ASH. ASH possibly believed that he was just a prophet, not the 2CC. Then when he died, people "made" him into a god. Just an idea that could be applied to Jesus.
As for asking in the name Jesus, He said ask and you will receive. If I'm garaunteed something ("will" being the garauntee) then why would I ask in any other name? Plus, the Scripture says the OT is obselete*. Where ever it says in the OT to ask in the name Jehovah is obselete* now.
Hal knows who or what the hell a Jehovah is Elie. Hal, being a yehuda, will probably tell you that there’s no J in the Semitic language we call Hebrew. In the scripture “Jehovah” is actually YHWH. Or YHVH. He’s just being technical ๐
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