The Constantine Debate with my Bro.

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  • #7017
    Elievalkyrie
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    This just in guys! I chatted with my brother thru facebook and I gave him a site that says something about "Emperor Constantine" not abolishing the Sabbath day and that Christians started worshipping in Sundays 288 years even before Constantine was born. (http://www.trektorome.com/did-constantine-abolish-the-sabbath-in-321-a-d/)

    This is his UNBELIEVABLE REPLY: It doesn't matter who did it, the important thing was that someone did abolish it thus fulfilling the prophecy in the Bible. Believe the Bible, not the people that spread the lies" It was really, really at the tip of my tongue to ask him if he was an idiot, but I held it in since I've read that I couldn't convince him that way. But really, can't he get anymore stupidier in joining that stupid cult?

    So I asked him (as uninsulting as I could), But how did you know that Constantine did it? What is your proof that it is not a lie? Do you have a book or something that confirms it? He STUPIDLY replied again, "DUH! It's in the Bible, it's a prophecy, you can't really know who would do it. That's why its called a prophecy!"

    I think I just pulled most of my hairs off out of exasperation. If the situation wasn't so funny, I would have cried myself to death!!

  • #49192

    Elievalkyrie
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    I don't get it why they can't understand that the HS doesn't have a new name because the HS is living in each and every one of us, or at least the chosen ones. That's why it's called SPIRIT in the first place! Uhrg!

    #49193

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I noticed that same thing! When i asked about, i was told we would talk about it later. But then i forgot to ask again.. Wow!!

    #49194

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    LOL. Just translate that "we would talk about it later" into a "I really don't know anything and would just make up plausible explanation about it later". I'm planning on carrying a secret recorder when I talk to these wmscog one of these days, so that whatever they say to me, I'll have proof when they discount it.

    #49195

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I did that to study the material more. But someone found out that people were recording sermons and Bible studies and the pastor madean announcement not to do that. I don’t understand why that’s not ok..

    #49196

    LUV
    Participant

    renita.payno wrote:

    I did that to study the material more. But someone found out that people were recording sermons and Bible studies and the pastor madean announcement not to do that. I don't understand why that's not ok..

     

     LOL, such sarcasm, ;P they really think ahead, they take more than 2 steps ahead of the game, obviously they don't want you to own their sermons, never the less record them, why such proof would collaspe their empire in the future. LEAVE NO EVIDENTS, COVER YOUR TRACKS! BE ON THE LOOKOUT!

    #49197

    Elievalkyrie
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    That's why I said "secret" recorder. LOL. They couldn't get something they know nothing about. Bwahahaha. I'll be very careful though.

    #49198

    emil
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    @Elievalkyrie
    – here's one more for you.

    Recently my friend in the wmscog sent out this email about ASH and the David prophecy. She quoted Luke 3:21-23 to show that Jesus too was baptized at age 30 just like ASH.

    Now that is a lovely passage because it clearly demonstrates the simultaneous presence of the 3 individual persons of the Trinity. Ask your bro what those verses mean if he ever speaks to you about the David prophecy.

    #49199

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    Thanks for this info Emil. I'll try this with my bro later. 

    #49200

    Simon
    Participant

    it was a visualization an omnipresent omnipotent God can appear as hundreds of thousands of individuals 3 is easy potatoes.

    #49201

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    Me: Since Ahn committed adultery, does that mean we are now allowed to commit adultery too?

    Bro: (Shocked) Of course not! It's not allowed in the Bible.

    ME: But you said so yourself that Ahn had sons earlier in our chat, that would mean that he already had a wife even before he met this god the mother.

    Bro: If they are already divorce, then it is not adultery.

    Me: If a man divorces his wife and marries another woman, he commits adultery. It's in the Bible. You can look it up.

    Bro: (Delayed in replying for a few minutes) I don't know…

    Me: You can try asking your deacon tomorrow if he knows something about this. ^________^

    Bro: Yes, I will.

    NOTICE HOW I USE PASSIVE STATEMENTS AND AVOID ARGUEMENTS. It really helps when dealing with stubborn people.   Special thanks to our fellow website member Warrior, for the suggestions and videos. Anyway, I know that Ahn did not actually marry god the mother, but maybe my brother didn't know that. I'll just have to wait and see in his next "defense".

    #49202

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    He’s starting to think. You can tell when a member doesn’t respond right away. They don’t have a prewritten answer to give. So when they have to think up for themselves, they can’t find a suitable answer and run to their group leader. Never discuss topics you don’t already know.. that’s what I was taught.

    #49203

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    Yeah, I'm trying not to start a topic unless he starts it first. He even mentioned the existence of Ahnsanghong's son first and that's where I started my "adultery" question. I am not really sure of the impact of this on him, but I'm keeping my fingers cross with an earnest prayer in my heart.

    Anyway, in one of my social sites, I send my trusted acquaintances the news about this wmscog, I am warning them not to believe this cult's teachings. The word "Cult" really do interests a lot of people. Let's just say this is my counter movement against their recruiting ones.

    #49204

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I don't like to say cult. It makes me feel like I'm saying a very bad word [removed for rules violation]..

    #49205

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    Hmm… But they are a cult and helping people to realize and accept that it IS a cult, greatly improves the success rate of getting people to avoid them or get out of them. 

    #49206

    Stained
    Participant

    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    Yeah, I'm trying not to start a topic unless he starts it first. He even mentioned the existence of Ahnsanghong's son first and that's where I started my "adultery" question. I am not really sure of the impact of this on him, but I'm keeping my fingers cross with an earnest prayer in my heart.

    Anyway, in one of my social sites, I send my trusted acquaintances the news about this wmscog, I am warning them not to believe this cult's teachings. The word "Cult" really do interests a lot of people. Let's just say this is my counter movement against their recruiting ones.

     

    You can be our Anti -Cult Guru "the all powerful Elie".  I'll be your high priest "The all seeing all knowing Stained", and I nominate Joshua as General Pastor of our Base Church at the Anti-Cult compound in Bangor Maine.  Emily will be "The wise high Deconess"  in charge of people who need to study more.  All upper echelon males will be issued (at their own expence of course) a pair of birth control glasses and must have slicked back hair dews. (The more grease the better)  No matter how white, black or hispanic we may be, we must all speak with a Korean accent and use the word actually no less than every third word when we speak.  For example: I Stained actually am actually the actual high Priest actually of actually the Anti-Cult Church actually and actually Joshua actually is actually my General Pastor actually.  This is proper language going forward.  Got that ?  Lets do this. 

    #49207

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    ROTFL!! Stained, you are killing me! This gives such vivid images in my mind, its making me laugh uncontrollaby that people are starting to stare and probably forming their impression that I am crazy or something. You really have crazy imaginations sometimes. LOL.

    #49208

    Stained
    Participant

    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    ROTFL!! Stained, you are killing me! This gives such vivid images in my mind, its making me laugh uncontrollaby that people are starting to stare and probably forming their impression that I am crazy or something. You really have crazy imaginations sometimes. LOL.

     

    Love you.  I do. /; v )

    #49209

    king34
    Participant

    lol

    #49210

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Actually, think about it.. there was one service when I just couldn’t stopped laughing. People at work were saying words like improsibruh, sirry, things like that. Saying that’s what asains sound like. The following service, I paid attention to the pastors accent and just couldn’t stop laughing….

    #49211

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    LOL. Had the same problem when I first listened to the Korean pastor's sermon in our zion. Couldn't concentrate on what he was talking about coz I was busy silently laughing…didn't mean any offense but I couldn't understand half of his words really.

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