The Constantine Debate with my Bro.

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  • #7017
    Elievalkyrie
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    This just in guys! I chatted with my brother thru facebook and I gave him a site that says something about "Emperor Constantine" not abolishing the Sabbath day and that Christians started worshipping in Sundays 288 years even before Constantine was born. (http://www.trektorome.com/did-constantine-abolish-the-sabbath-in-321-a-d/)

    This is his UNBELIEVABLE REPLY: It doesn't matter who did it, the important thing was that someone did abolish it thus fulfilling the prophecy in the Bible. Believe the Bible, not the people that spread the lies" It was really, really at the tip of my tongue to ask him if he was an idiot, but I held it in since I've read that I couldn't convince him that way. But really, can't he get anymore stupidier in joining that stupid cult?

    So I asked him (as uninsulting as I could), But how did you know that Constantine did it? What is your proof that it is not a lie? Do you have a book or something that confirms it? He STUPIDLY replied again, "DUH! It's in the Bible, it's a prophecy, you can't really know who would do it. That's why its called a prophecy!"

    I think I just pulled most of my hairs off out of exasperation. If the situation wasn't so funny, I would have cried myself to death!!

  • #49152

    Simon
    Participant

    That’s nonsense

    #49153

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    What is the nonsense Simon? 

    #49154

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Money isn’t evil. Its the love of money. Giving your money to god shows you love god more than you love your money.

    #49155

    Simon
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    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    What is the nonsense Simon? 

    This:

    Stained wrote:

    Simon wrote:

    but the WMSCOG teaches Jews have physical salvation from Passover they keep actually (at least in Ahn's writings)

     And his writings have virtually nothing to do with them as they belong to NCP. 

    #49156

    LUV
    Participant

    Stained wrote:

    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    Stained, you mentioned " 31.5 days left till the END OF PREACHING". What do you mean? Did their mother god told this to the members  already? 

     Well they say, now, that they never said 2012 was the end of the world and substituted that with saying what they really said was it's the end of preaching.  That was their damage control attempt.  So be it.  No more preaching. 

     how can that explantion help with damage control.  The older members can not be that naive, unless of course they do stop preaching, but for like a couple of weeks, and then come back with a believeable excuse,like mother said more time, but then what will they do in the mean time, watch movies all day? it would seem like the end if we don't see them in the malls or campus, that would be erie!! by the way I was taught that mother said father was coming this year.  Hey anything can happen in matter of seconds and there is 30 days till the end of the year, so only time will tell.

    #49157

    Stained
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    Simon wrote:

    Actually he isn't keeping easter in the photos they just named Easter after the resurrection in Korean rather than the Germanic goddess so it translates Easter even when it isn't

     No Simon.  Actually the real easter bunny is right out back behind him hiding easter eggs but ASH is stalling for time so the bunny can get all the eggs hidden.  Then the easter bunny and ASH ran hippity hop hippity hop, through the grassy fields they went.  So it is an easter photo.

    #49158

    Simon
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    Do not take advantage of language to bear false witness just because an evil church usurped him

    #49159

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    When they said that Ahn was coming this year, was will happen after then? I want more info on this.

    #49160

    Simon
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    They never said when Ahn was coming (as of last time I went to WMSCOG) only that this was an important year in prophecy and that the feast of tabernacles would be fulfilled.

    #49161

    LUV
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    They never said when Ahn was coming (as of last time I went to WMSCOG) only that this was an important year in prophecy and that the feast of tabernacles would be fulfilled.

    NO WAY! Simon you are contardicting what you say here. In an older post you stated that

    "mother told the overseers that father was coming this year", do you not remember posting that, so why do you say now they never said that.  Your right they didn't(church) mother did, and she is the head of the church, she is suppose to be GOD.

    I will find that post and show you because I know what I read, and if i'm wrong correct me.

    did anyone else got to read what I'm talking about?

    #49162

    Simon
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    I remember to responding to a post like that, are you sure I wasn't quoting someone? I do recall saying that she said father "might" come in a conversation with Renita.

    #49163

    Stained
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    I remember to responding to a post like that, are you sure I wasn't quoting someone? I do recall saying that she said father "might" come in a conversation with Renita.

     

    NEWS FLASH:  This just in off the wire:   NOBODY'S COMING.

    #49164

    Stained
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    Do not take advantage of language to bear false witness just because an evil church usurped him

     Oh so are you saying I can't believe in and promote the easter bunny but they have the right to propagate their convoluted ideas ? Come on Shimone, you gotta have faith.  Need me to sing that George Michael tune for you ?

    #49165

    LUV
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    I remember to responding to a post like that, are you sure I wasn't quoting someone? I do recall saying that she said father "might" come in a conversation with Renita.

     NO Simon, you did say, confriming that mother told the overseers group father was coming this year, I can't find it now, but I will, because I remember well what you posted.

     Hi, Renita do you remember having this conversation with Simon??

    #49166

    Elievalkyrie
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    LOL. Does it really matter what Simon says? No pun intended. I just want to find out if what the wmscog said about Anhs arrival. Would he be coming to destroy us all *joke* or what? What about the going of his "wife"? I want to know about their "prophesied" end of the world, if there is any, so I can celebrate when it doesn't happen. LOL. 

    Take note that I said WHEN, not IF. Hehe.

    #49167

    Simon
    Participant

    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    LOL. Does it really matter what Simon says? No pun intended.

    Ha… ha! ๐Ÿ˜›

    #49168

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    LOL. Does it really matter what Simon says? No pun intended.

    Ha… ha! ๐Ÿ˜›

    Not so sure if this was sarcastic or not because of the smiley with the tongue out but i'm going to give you a benefit of a doubt. LoL. So you have anything to answer to my question, ex-wmscog Simon? hehe.

    #49169

    Simon
    Participant

    I just thought of something reading your post actually…

    WMSCOG uses Daniel 7:25 to say the Catholic Church changed the times and the laws. They teach Sabbath was changed in 321 and Passover in 325 BUT they teach the prophecy was from 538-1798… may be a way you can use that to your advantage.

     

    If Constantine had already changed the laws in 321-325 how can the Catholic Church have done it from 538-1798?

    #49170

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    Hmmm…this is a really good argument againts them. Thanks for pointing this out Simon. Argh, I can't help remembering my brother's comment about this topic, which was: "Who cares who did it and when? The important thing was that it happened! The prophecy was fulfilled!"

    #49171

    Simon
    Participant

    I don't know how to phrase this well but

    • if it was abolished and necessary other curches keep the "feasts and days" as WMSCOG does so recognizing they abolishment cannot be a sign of "the one true church"
    • if the church were run by "God the Mother" she would be able to tell us the correct who and when(omniscient) and would do so (cannot lie) but does not do so (321-325/538-1798 conflict)
    • even if the prophecy was fulfilled in abolishing "seven feasts" and sabbath WMSCOG cannot be one true church

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