The appointed day.

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  • #7086
    Cephas' Brother
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    When I brought up the COG's end of days predictions, my girl told me that she was taught that no one knew when the end would come. This seems to be a general concensus amongst most christians, that no one knows the day or the hour. I'm sure there's even some scripture I could cite here to back that up. However, reading the 'changes in the green book' article on this site, I came across something odd. 

    https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/changes-in-the-green-book-part-1-removal-of-second-coming-references/

    In the 1993 edition, on pp 59-60, Ahnsahnghong says "…by studying the works of Moses we can clearly find out the truth about the relations between Jesus and us and everything that Christ will do in the future and even the appointed day concerning His second coming."

    This is changed in the 2010 edition a little bit, to make it fit with the COG's doctrine that ASH was the second coming. Something we'll all agree that he most likely did not believe himself. What hadn't struck me before was the part about "…even the appointed day concering his second coming." 

    Right there, he said that by studying the Torah that you could somehow divine THE APPOINTED DAY of the return of the messiah. Nevermind that he did or didn't think he was the second coming, doesn't this put him in the same group as the Harold Campings, the Millerites, and the like? 

    Yet another example of the COG teaching one thing, Ahnsahnghong saying the opposite, and neither of them being anywhere near 'the truth'. 

  • #51522

    Sarah2013
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    Amen, Eli…

    #51523

    Simon
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    that's begging the question

    #51524

    Simon
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    After all if you believe Ahnsahnghong is God he is in the old testament because he and God are one

    #51525

    Elievalkyrie
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    The witness accounts testify about the miracles of Jesus and His perfect fulfillment of the prophecy WHICH IS found in the OT while Ahnsanghong did not create a single miracle in his lifetime but instead gives predictions that does not come to pass which is proof enough in itself that he is not divine. He did not fulfill any prophecy that I know of. The prophecy of Jesus’ 2nd coming states that when He comes a 2nd time around, it would already be to bring judgement. He comes, He judge. People goes to either Heaven or Hell. That’s it. There is no prophecy stating that He will live with us again, commit adultery during his stay, predict the end of the world and die “the second time around” without the world ending.

    #51526

    Simon
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    There is no prophecy that limits to two comings.

    #51527

    Elievalkyrie
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    Then proviDe a prphecy that states there is more than one second coming.

    #51528

    Simon
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    There isn't a prophecy that says there is more than one second coming that would redefine the word second. But the fact is many nonWMSCOG christians believe in two more comings on some level

    #51529

    Elievalkyrie
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    The fact remains that the bible does not state more than one second coming of Jesus therefore no religion have the right to claim that there is. It is adding things in the prophecy that is not there, which I believe is dangerous according to the book of Revelations..

    #51530

    Simon
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    No one has the right to claim their is not either

    #51531

    Elievalkyrie
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    The main point of this is that prophecies were not made to be used by men to predict the future. It should not be used to create fear for what will happen but it must assure people that God made certain promises and It is sure to happen. People should just leave it alone and concentrate with glorifying God and living their lives in peace and joyful waiting.

    #51532

    Joshua
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    Hal, you misquote mythology alot. Please place your sources here so they can be verified. These three myths, as far as I can remember it, have never been considered the same. Zeus = Lightning, Hades = Keeper of the underworld, Poseidon = Water. There are a lot of other myths not mentioned here however, if you do your history, these myths are fictional. The man Jesus is not a fictional creation and can be verified not only through the eyewitness accounts of the Bible but in other historical documentation as well. I really want to see where you got your information from. You make reference to stuff like this a lot so I imagine that you have quite a library to share with us.

    #51533

    Simon
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    Hal wrote:

    Simon wrote:

    Except there is a messiah mention in the Tanakh no mesiahs are mentioned in the founding documents.

     Nor is any messiah EVER found in the wording of the Torah!

    Please do not strawman me I did not say Torah

     

    Hal wrote:

     

    The 3 and 1 directly comes from the Hellenization of the area that Zeus, Hades and Poseidon were 1 yet 3..

    No they were never deemed 1 yet 3 they were deemed 3 brothers period

    #51534

    Elievalkyrie
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    Hal wrote:

     

    The 3 and 1 directly comes from the Hellenization of the area that Zeus, Hades and Poseidon were 1 yet 3..

    No they were never deemed 1 yet 3 they were deemed 3 brothers period

    I studied mythology in school. I never heard of anything about Zeus, Hades and Poseidon being considered 1 yet 3. 

    #51535

    Cephas' Brother
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    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    The main point of this is that prophecies were not made to be used by men to predict the future. It should not be used to create fear for what will happen but it must assure people that God made certain promises and It is sure to happen. People should just leave it alone and concentrate with glorifying God and living their lives in peace and joyful waiting.

    That's a lovely way of putting it. Sorta what I was getting at with the OP. Before this thread devolved into hair splitting and mythological quandries.

    As far as I know, the "3 in 1" or Triune deity definitely predates christianity (a fact conveniently tip toed around with the "the devil came here first to sabotage us" yarn), but I never heard that it originated with Hellenic culture, or that Zeus/Hades/Poseidon were ever thought to be triune.

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