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I wanted to put something in the forum where former members who have exited could share their experiences with others. I also desire to see folks that contribute to this forum reaching out in love to these people. We spend a lot of time here disproving the teachings and ideas of this cult and in truth that is the way this website is set up. I for one am glad that it is this way and that people can express their thoughts both for and against these things. That being said we really need to be balanced in our own ideals and provide support for those folks who are starting to see the light but are still very confused and hurt because of their experiences in these kinds of groups. If you have a story and are willing to share please post it. There are many people here who want to help and are willing to listen and help bear the burden at least in part. You're not alone in this and there are people who will understand what you're going through or have gone through.
Good thought Joshua. I want to support these people as well. As I've always said, there are a lot of good, well-intentioned people in the wmscog who simply were misled. They need our help and support as they sort their way out.
I'm with you Joshua
I agree with you. I'm sure many will leave and they will need support and their stories will come with new realizations about other ways this group is using to make money out of faith
Made an exuse today and snuck out early from study at Zion. I'm just zapped out of energy. No one seems to even bat an eye or even question anything. It's been 2 days since New Year and I've been working my a** off for 7 years and it's just, well exasperating being told that well we have to wait a little longer. But seeing as no one else is leaving you get that feeling of not wanting to be the 'only one'.
longhaul wrote:
Made an exuse today and snuck out early from study at Zion. I'm just zapped out of energy. No one seems to even bat an eye or even question anything. It's been 2 days since New Year and I've been working my a** off for 7 years and it's just, well exasperating being told that well we have to wait a little longer. But seeing as no one else is leaving you get that feeling of not wanting to be the 'only one'.
I heard that "a little longer" is 6 more years!!! There are rumors that the date has been pushed back to 2018. That's just crazy. Do you think you can put up with it for that much longer? I was always exhausted when I was a member. I really don't know how you did it for so long but I'm really glad that you are finally starting to see the deception. Keep searching. We're here to help 🙂
longhaul wrote:
Made an exuse today and snuck out early from study at Zion. I'm just zapped out of energy. No one seems to even bat an eye or even question anything. It's been 2 days since New Year and I've been working my a** off for 7 years and it's just, well exasperating being told that well we have to wait a little longer. But seeing as no one else is leaving you get that feeling of not wanting to be the 'only one'.
Believe me longhaul, you are not the "only one". Don't let them use you any longer. You have the freedom to do what you want, to live your life happy. What kind of god would make his/her people suffer for years out of nothing? Empty promises, that's what they do. Promising eternal life when they don't even have that right. Promising doomsday that keeps failing and keeps changing dates. Promising rewards when the truth is they are ones that gets all the rewards. Rewards that came from you and from all the people they deceived. And THAT is why the ones they claim to be gods are false because they have no real divine power, only great authority because of money. We are put here on earth to see the glory of God, to be happy knowing that He is there for us. They have no right saying that you must work you a** off to gain eternal salvation. It is by God's grace that we are save, not by our own works. *Ephesians 2:8* I am really starting to love this verse. lol.
I don't know, I have one part of me saying enough is enough I can' t handle it any longer, and then the other part saying what if? What if a couple days from now or weeks or months, what if. I don't know all the truths everything i worked for I just can't let go, I don't know how.
longhaul wrote:
I don't know, I have one part of me saying enough is enough I can' t handle it any longer, and then the other part saying what if? What if a couple days from now or weeks or months, what if. I don't know all the truths everything i worked for I just can't let go, I don't know how.
Do you have a support system? Outside of the wms I mean. Family that maybe you haven't seen in a while? Old friends?
You can try voicing your doubts, tell them what you think. See what their reactions would be like. You start from there. Just don't suffer in silence. Maybe you can try asking hand-picked members what they think. Those who were with you that heard them say the end is in 2012.
longhaul – We completely empathise with your situation. I know you must have alienated yourself from all your loved ones to give yourself entirely to the wmscog. I don't know what your exact sitaution is but I can see people like Elievalkyrie, Mountainmom, Genny, etc. all waiting with arms open wide to welcome back their kin.
We do not blame you for having been cheated for all these years. You are a victim. The sooner you come out of it the better. Until you reconcile with your family, we are here for you.
Is hard to Let Go. All of us that are here had to let it go at one point. However, the risk I took was bigger because at the time I left they were still saying that the end was going to be on 2012 and I left befor 2012. Guess what? well nothing hapened and right now I feel very happy to have been able to go back to my family, got a good job and I went back to school. I still miss everyone in there, I still have all the books and my all underlined bible however there is a life after this God still with you the true God Almighty whom never leave us alone even if we cannot see him. After so many years I am sure is more painful because of all the time, money and effort that you have put into the COGWMS however if you really need professional help visit a Psycologist and explain your situation let the professionals know that you are psyologically stuck. There is nothing wrong with that neither. Get special help for yourself (yes there is nothing wrong with that neither), for your family and future family, and for your personal relationship with God. (I apologyze about all the Typos)
I agree with you, longhaul. I'm stuck with it too, but I pretend stop attending… I don't go the church since 22/12/2012. They even made the Clean Campaign on 30/12/2012 or 31. I don't know… and I don't pretend to.
A friend of mine said everyone was asking about me, soon I realized, getting out will gonna be tougher than I thought… how did you guys managed to break-up with WMSCOG?
Yes, I still have motives to continue in there, my motives are my friends, one of them is studying… attending only in saturdays, I plan to give him a few tips you guys gave me to see their answer – or excuses… and make him see the light, though I think he is only there to eat. lol
The second one is my friend, but he is influenceable, so I can give the tips too, maybe he will realize it too.
Worst of all, I got a crush on one member, she started attending in june/july, studied, thithed, give all her free time to study and to the church, soon… she dropped out of college to give more of time to the church… I don't know exactly but I think she dropped out of work too. Her determination, independence… her passion is noble. I'll admit but, I fear she is fully indoctrinated, she is even teaching about several lessons by now, (I only studied two and that was several months ago) and recruiting people in the streets everyday, 9am to 6pm, she only lives for the church, her mother used to attend too, her grandmother is also a regular one… I think her family is seeing her attitude by now…
I'm afraid she thinks this is the only motive for her existence… to live and die for the church, and to believe in a faith and work for it… all in vain…
Sad it isn't?
I commend you guys for taking the steps that you have. I'm sure that it feels like trying to give up an addiction. You step away because you know it's not good for you but you still want whatever it was. There was a sort of comfort in it as sad as that might be. You spend time rationalizing to yourself that you can handle just a little bit once in a while. This is where most people fall back into addiction. They convince themselve that it wasn't so bad and / or they can handle it with will power. If they had just a little they would get over it faster. They can help the people they used to hang out with if they only spend some time with them doing the thing that they know is not good for them. Relating if you will. Folks, please don't fall for this! This goes for anyone who is trying to get back in to do some recon work or something like that. It's a trap of your own making! Anderson, you are doing the right things currently. Next step might be to get in with a counselor who can help you work through these difficult times and help you understand what happened to you and why it seems so difficult to leave. This is not smug advice I'm giving you. My loved one and I have gone through this process ourselves. It's hard but very liberating. You end up being a stronger person in the end. With your friends, help them if you can but don't get sucked back in. As far as the woman your interested goes, this might be the biggest trap for you right now. Get her the information but put some distance between you and her until you have counseling and have developed a strong support system you can count on. Love these folks but don't engage with them again until you are a much stronger person. This is sound advice for anyone and I hope everyone takes it to heart.
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