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Another thing the Wms takes away from people is the trust of their loved ones. In order to indoctrinate and maintain the member, the Wms has to work on undermining trust. They (Wms) tries to keep them away from their family because that is who they have a bond with and might listen to. Subtly, they also tell the member that their family "won't understand" and that their family "will come in the form of the devil to steal their faith." Through repetition, sleep deprivation, and peer mentoring, they get the member to misplace their trust from the people who have always loved them and earned it, to the Wms hierarchy. Soon we are all liars, slanderers, and the devil's children, not to be trusted. We have given our son every reason to trust us from day one. His Dad, for instance, has always prided himself on his integrity, and he was told many times by our son that he "couldn't be trusted." He was told by our son that he was going to "burn in the lake of fire." This was so extremely hurtful, and it made me angry as well. How dare he say that to his Dad who has always loved him and tried so hard to listen to his Wms drivel for hours on end. And his Dad even attended several Sabbaths all day and went to at least two Passovers with him. His Dad didn't believe, he just went because our son said he would understand everything if he studied with him and attended, etc., you know the whole sales pitch. His Dad wanted to remove the argument that we didn't understand or believe simply because we hadn't spent the time. Anyway, that is what it gets you even if you go and spend the time. And that is what kind of betrayal you can expect from your son/daughter whom you have spent decades living a life that you thought would be a great example for them. None of it matters once they are a member of this abomination that calls itself a church.
MM you are correct! You can't trust a person that is being controlled by the "man behind the curtain" or as in your analogy – the puppet master!
You got it, MountainMom! And not only that… Exmembers, did you find it hard to trust others again after you came out?
Well, I can say its been hard to trust within Christianity. I now lump WMS in the same box as those sappy Tele-evangelists that come on at 3am, trying to sell you miracle spring water if you only send some money.
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I also meant to say that relationships are based on trust. That is why the Wms works so hard to undermine it. One of our son's best qualities was his integrity. We could be sure of anything he told us. Now we don't know if he is telling us something or the church is. They pull his strings completely, and you can't trust the puppet untill the strings are cut.
You're right MM — here's where I fit the profile. They knew they coudn't convince me to drink their kool Aid with their Bible studies. It's when they started keeping a closer eye on me that they realized I was recording the studies. They used it discredit me in her eyes. They began turning her against me telling her I was poised by evil and that I would bring her down to hell with me. She never have credibility that I was doing it for her, for me and for the sake of our relationship. She did all that she could to keep us together, but under their rules. No matter what tried. It was too late.
I lost her but I also had my glory. She was not able to recruit a single friend we had in common, and she tried really hard. She tried to recruit her mother and siblings but everytime I interviened by showing them all my findings. I know she most hate me for that.
This is so true. Had some differing opinions with your "stealing faith" thread but this one I completely agree.
@genny Yes definitely, I guess it is inevitable after what the members have to go through. It's just something we have to slowly build up again.To ex-members and family of current members…Stay strong!
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