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    emil
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    Simon wrote:

    emil wrote:

    I don't believe we are meant to interpret those texts at all.

    Revelation 1:1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

    First of all sorry. I guess I have made a blanket statement which can be misconstrued. Let me clarify.

    The book of Rev can be logically seen as two parts. The latter part is about the end days and I will talk about that later in this post. The earlier part is basically the letters to the 7 churches.

    The letters to the 7 churches serve two purposes. They are very direct and address the actual problems that the church was facing in those 7 churches. It is not something mysterious. Yet it contains instructions for us. How so? Every church, every parish anywhere in the world has its share of problems which are a subset of the problems written about by John to the 7 churches. In that context, those letters are instructions to deal with the problems.

    The latter part of the book is more complex. It is a description of the events of a future date in a veiled language. The words "soon" and "time is near" which you have quoted, must be understood in hindsight. Already 2000 years have passed since it was written. Many generations have come and gone each thinking it was the last. The point I am making is that we should focus less on the events of the final day. Rather, we must focus on our spiritual preparation for the event. And that is what we get instructions for when we read the straight-forward scripture like the gospels and the letters. In other words, take the help of scripture to prepare for the end days but do not focus on the events themselves. God will take care of his people.

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    Love'n Honey
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    Really? Oh.. =)

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    Simon
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    Maybe? I think Emil is a he though

    #42403

    Love'n Honey
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    I think she was referring to the thunders. Because she mentioned the letters.

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    Simon
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    emil wrote:

    I don't believe we are meant to interpret those texts at all.

    Revelation 1:1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

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    Simon
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    I meant Emil (I assume he didn't go to WMSCOG on us)

    #42400

    Love'n Honey
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    Simon wrote:

    That contradicts the texts

    Of course it contradicts the texts. The WMSCOG is not the true church of God so of course we're going to find disharmony.

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    Simon
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    That contradicts the texts

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    emil
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    I think you are spot on Renita. These guys enjoy using the apocalyptic texts to make fanciful interpretations that suit them. I don't believe we are meant to interpret those texts at all. Instead of worrying ourselves to death with Rev and what can happen, lets give more importance to John's gospel and letters where we are told what to do.

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    Love'n Honey
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    Simon wrote:

    I believe his point is since the bible is sealed and only jesus can open it only jesus can open the seven thunders maybe not but that wad my take

    not that it makes tbe seven thunders the feasts

     I do say I agree with you. I believe that Ash was pointing out that the only one who can/will reveal what the 7 thunders spoke is the Lamb. I don't think he was saying that the Feasts are the 7 thunders. He never said the 7 thunders were revealed anyway. He said the mystery is the gospel of the new cov't because that's what the Scripture says Rev 10:7…. But I don't think that's what the Scripture actually meant. I think, and this maggot may be wrong, that John wrote the mystery of the gospel will be accomplished just as he announced to his servants.. meaning in the way God told his servants the gospel will be accomplish is how the gospel will be accomplished. Not that the gospel is the mystery.

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    Sarah2013
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    Oh, ok. Thanks. Glad we agree on something, Simon. Lol.

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    Simon
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    Sans means without

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    Sarah2013
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    What’s “San FTOS?”

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    Simon
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    That we all (sans ftos) agree on 🙂

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    Sarah2013
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    @ KF, I have no clue. I payed less attention to particulars. All I know is that Zhang and Ahang are not God. 🙂

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