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In a recent conversation with someone who visited the Zion in Chicago, it came out that one of the "mentors" there told this visitor that we were all angels who were kicked out of heaven. I have heard this before, of course. This visitor was asked what crime might be bad enough to be kicked out of heaven for? The visitor quickly replied, "Tax evasion?" (I had to laugh!) The "mentor" said, "No, not tax evasion, murder or something of that magnitude."
Anyway, in talking to this visitor he was saying that there are billions of people in the world, and if we are all sinners who used to be in heaven, then the wmscog makes heaven seem like a place no one would want to go! After all, there were billions of people there who all did something like murder or something nearly that bad! Makes you wonder why they are all striving to get there, doesn't it?
Do members of wmscog who have children look into their sweet little babies eyes and wonder what horrible crime that baby committed in heaven? If so, that is just so sick and wrong. Yet, that is what this visitor I talked to was basically saying. I guess that is why they minimize the importance of family and children in this church. Definitely not what God intended, I'd say.
MountainMom wrote:
Anyway, in talking to this visitor he was saying that there are billions of people in the world, and if we are all sinners who used to be in heaven, then the wmscog makes heaven seem like a place no one would want to go! After all, there were billions of people there who all did something like murder or something nearly that bad! Makes you wonder why they are all striving to get there, doesn't it?
I hadn't thought about it that way. Good one!
They teach that we all sided with Satan (unknowingly) and plotted to murder “father & mother”. Everyone participated in the same crime…babies included (according to what they teach).
why wouldn't babies be included?
btw I wouldn't mind being with billions of sinners if they were repentent (not that the story is true mind you)
further they teaches for every one sinner there are 99 non sinners still in heaven so it would be quite a minority
Simon wrote:
further they teaches for every one sinner there are 99 non sinners still in heaven so it would be quite a minority
Ahh so heaven looks to be crowded. We are currently supposed to be having 6-7 billion people in the world. I do not know how many people have ever lived but I assume it would be in excess of 15 billion. if you consider that these are 1 of 99 in heaven, heaven would have had 1.5 trillion people or whatever you want to call them, 15 billion of whom were sinners and were sent down to earth.
@ emil – I see your math and raise you the "love of mother!"
It's super effective! This renders all your arguments invalid.
…and the spirit and the bride say come!!
Don't you belive emil! Where's your faith!?
^ you win. I give up 🙂
thats a red herring
they weren't babies in heaven…. (but then neither were we in heaven but that's wholly another issue altogether)
I already said that
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