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This is a formal challenge to all WMSCOG members. The challenge is for you to find for me anywhere in the Bible the phrase, “god the mother.” You can find God the Father, Son of God, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, God the Holy Ghost. Your task is to show me, “god the mother” word for word. Your time starts now.
The point I am making is this.
Does the WMSCOG teach that it is possible to change the course of a soul's eternal destiny after death? Or is the destination decided at the point of death?
If the destiny cannot be changed then what is the point in preaching mother god to those who are already dead? At least I assume from what I read earlier that Jesus is expected to preach to them as per wmscog.
ONLY if they never had the opportunity to accept or reject
This sounds a lot like the Moonies. They even told their members that they were responsible for the saving of their ancestors who hadn't been preached to. The guilt trip they laid on people was tremendous. I am wondering if the wmscog does something similar. We asked our relative if his grandpa, whom he loved dearly, was in hell since he wasn't in the "church." His reply, "Not yet."
No wmscog doesn't teach anything about being responsible for ancestors. And the theory is pretty logical if we presume God is fair there must be some way to save those who never heard of Jesus in this life, as many STILL have not. and there was a time when three entire continents of people could not have ever heard of him. They use 1 Peter for their solution.
Well, the dead are someone's ancestors. And so who is to preach to them? And where is that in the Bible? It just sounds like another thing to get them to keep going, never give up preaching on earth.
Your fate or destiny is decided at creation. When god created you, he already laid out your life and knows your end. He gives us this opportunity to live out our life so we can see for ourselves what kind of people we are. If at creation, god decided to skip the life on earth and decided to throw people to hell for what they will do, it wouldn’t seem fair to us because we can’t tell the future. Our arguement is that we hadn’t done anything bad yet so we can’t be punished. Even though god already lais out our lives and knows who deserves heaven or hell, he let’s us live out our lives so we can say gods judgement is fair.
This is what I have a major problem with. Its like I purposely made a program for my computer to fail. Why make a failed program? On purpose? What’s the point? To make an example of my programming awesomeness????? Well, iaw the wmscog, yes. God makes creatures for destruction, to be sent to hell, to show the creatures of his mercy, those who will go to heaven, how amazing his power is.
renita.payno wrote:
Your fate or destiny is decided at creation. When god created you, he already laid out your life and knows your end. He gives us this opportunity to live out our life so we can see for ourselves what kind of people we are. If at creation, god decided to skip the life on earth and decided to throw people to hell for what they will do, it wouldn't seem fair to us because we can't tell the future. Our arguement is that we hadn't done anything bad yet so we can't be punished. Even though god already lais out our lives and knows who deserves heaven or hell, he let's us live out our lives so we can say gods judgement is fair.
This is what I have a major problem with. Its like I purposely made a program for my computer to fail. Why make a failed program? On purpose? What's the point? To make an example of my programming awesomeness????? Well, iaw the wmscog, yes. God makes creatures for destruction, to be sent to hell, to show the creatures of his mercy, those who will go to heaven, how amazing his power is.
Actually, this is actually why God, actually sent Jesus actually, to save us actually, from our selves actually, by us actually accepting the actual free gift actually of salvation actually. He knows actually that we actually have one sin actually and actually if we actually have one sin actually, we have actually them all actually. Only Jesus's blood actually covers our sins actually. It's actually that simple actually.
MountainMom wrote:
Well, the dead are someone's ancestors. And so who is to preach to them? And where is that in the Bible? It just sounds like another thing to get them to keep going, never give up preaching on earth.
As I have mentioned in other threads they use 1 Peter to demonstrate Jehovah/Jesus/Ahnsahnghong will preach to them after if they do not get the opportunity to hear:
1 Peter 4: 5They will give an account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6 For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Explained why people are still guilty of sin after Jesus death?
Hal wrote:
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renita.payno wrote:
You don't go to heaven or hell right after death. You have to wait until judgment day.
No where does the Tanakh teach that. It states that all souls are judged based on what they do.
That really has nothing to do with what renita said anyways
But no where in the Tanakh does it talk about a "judgement day" for all man kind based upon sin. Its stupid crazy bs that came through 2000 years ago and has been a main stay of why people believe that some guy named Ahn is now judging. There is no scripture based anywhere. Yeshua is not coming back. He is dead. Ahn is dead. Zhang will die soon.
Daniel kinda does and then a zillion prophecies say "Day of the Lord"
I don’t follow the Bible either
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